220 fps velocity, any guns have problems?

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  • magsRus
    Lost Boys
    • Jul 2001
    • 1706

    #16
    220 wells its not as good as 280
    "You dont need to be so shallow, turn your head prepare to follow"-CKY

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    • paintball8869
      Registered User
      • Nov 2000
      • 483

      #17
      my intimidator had a little trouble under 260. Well it was moreso user error, i didn't want to spend time at the chrono setting it up perfectly. I usually chrono it at 285 on a 290 fps limit, getting +-3 fps. When i went down to less than 260, i just adjusted the HP reg, not the LP. So that's what caused my lack of consistencty (+-8).


      But it likes the 280 fps range better, becuase lower than that the paint doesn't tend to break on target.

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      • PsychoBaller
        Gone are my SFL days...
        • Nov 2000
        • 1952

        #18
        I'm tellin ya.....

        It's all about the springs..... I mean, i just have the medium (normal) one in there now on my LX, and I can go as low as 230ish.

        SFL LX doesnt really like it down that low, so i try and keep it about 240-50 since my fields limit is 260.

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        • AcemanPB
          Exactly
          • Mar 2002
          • 1885

          #19
          From my experience, Impulses tippmanns and most cockers have no problem getting that low.

          With my Level 7 mag I could easily shoot 220fps just fine but with level 10 I would have to play around with the springs and stuff to get it to shoot below 270. If I turn the velocity down below that point it will not cycle.

          What would be the optimal setting with level 10 to hit a low velocity? (shortest spring, biggest non-leaking carrier?)

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          • SyntaxError
            OSK #3
            • Sep 2001
            • 621

            #20
            Re: Same.....

            Originally posted by PsychoBaller
            Riotz said one player on the opposing team was shooting 300, and another at 380 supposedly. In any event, Rooster, the guy who runs the field (Rexplex in NJ) booted the team from the field, and gavem a nice warning about playing there in the future.

            ~da baller
            Not quite 380, but above 300. I was there, and don't worry, this team won't be back at Shooters PB anytime soon.
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            • Powday
              Yo!
              • Apr 2003
              • 19

              #21
              My Field's Limit is 225. Hated.

              Hey bud... from what I've experienced with the Lvl10 on the RT and XValves is that it's difficult to keep the speed consistant when I'm shooting that low. The field I go to, Paintball Planet in SLC, has a cap of 225. Although I can get my gun to shoot this low, it's not very consistent. Sometimes, I walk up to the chrono and it's 230, sometimes 210. Never really the same unless I shoot one or two in a row, then I see it within +/- 5 or so. But never from game to game... it's always whacked after that.

              When I play at the outdoor field, however, the lvl 10 shoots alot more consistant it seems. I don't run into the same probs out there.

              Although, regardless of where I am, I have noticed that my first shot is a little hot. I'll have to search thru the threads and see why that is. I don't remember that happening with my old setup (RT Pro).

              Good luck keepin the speed down.

              Justin

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              • adam shannon
                Registered User
                • Oct 2002
                • 805

                #22
                spork and psychoballer got it right. you will have to switch to the smallest spring on a lx mag, and adjust your output pressure. but i didnt have a problem getting to 220 after a little tinkering.
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                • shartley
                  paintball player
                  • Mar 2001
                  • 9169

                  #23
                  Originally posted by AlabamaMan
                  Some spyders or spyder clones may have a problem shooting that low. I know my paintball club got 12 spyder clones, and about half of them we couldn't get under 300. We had one turned down as far as it would go and it was still @ 350.

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                  • Thordic
                    AFTICA
                    • May 2001
                    • 5986

                    #24
                    With stock springs sometimes a spyder won't get under 300 FPS. You either have to cut the spring or rent a gun. It sucks but its the truth.

                    Thats why you should spend the $12 and get a Maddman kit for your spyder.

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                    • beam
                      The end.
                      • May 2001
                      • 2036

                      #25
                      Yep, that's correct about the spyders. I had a Compact 2000 (tricked out yo ) and it was hard to get it below 300. A guy at the field cut my spring down and I was good to go. He said at the field he runs, he had to cut every one of the springs on the rental spyders.

                      I would assume that clones would suffer from this problem as well sometimes.
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                      • shartley
                        paintball player
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 9169

                        #26

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                        • no1beefcake
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 96

                          #27
                          Originally posted by shartley
                          That is such BS. I know if I spent 200 bucks on a paintball gun (no, I would never buy a Spyder), and it turned out that I had to replace or cut springs in it just to be able to play for the first time, I would be pissed. If the velocity won't adjust within legal parameters, it IS the marker's fault. It isn't a matter of setting it up, or whatever. We aren't talking about adjusting regs and timing on an Autococker; we're talking about internal springs on a stock Spyder. You would think that since it is such a common problem, and the fix is a shorter spring, that maybe they would start making them with the shorter springs...
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                          • shartley
                            paintball player
                            • Mar 2001
                            • 9169

                            #28
                            Originally posted by no1beefcake


                            That is such BS. I know if I spent 200 bucks on a paintball gun (no, I would never buy a Spyder), and it turned out that I had to replace or cut springs in it just to be able to play for the first time, I would be pissed. If the velocity won't adjust within legal parameters, it IS the marker's fault. It isn't a matter of setting it up, or whatever. We aren't talking about adjusting regs and timing on an Autococker; we're talking about internal springs on a stock Spyder. You would think that since it is such a common problem, and the fix is a shorter spring, that maybe they would start making them with the shorter springs...

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                            • Ov3rmind
                              Speechless
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 2637

                              #29
                              Re: My Field's Limit is 225. Hated.

                              Originally posted by Powday
                              Hey bud... from what I've experienced with the Lvl10 on the RT and XValves is that it's difficult to keep the speed consistant when I'm shooting that low. The field I go to, Paintball Planet in SLC, has a cap of 225. Although I can get my gun to shoot this low, it's not very consistent. Sometimes, I walk up to the chrono and it's 230, sometimes 210. Never really the same unless I shoot one or two in a row, then I see it within +/- 5 or so. But never from game to game... it's always whacked after that.

                              When I play at the outdoor field, however, the lvl 10 shoots alot more consistant it seems. I don't run into the same probs out there.

                              Although, regardless of where I am, I have noticed that my first shot is a little hot. I'll have to search thru the threads and see why that is. I don't remember that happening with my old setup (RT Pro).

                              Good luck keepin the speed down.

                              Justin
                              Have you been to Showdown before? 280 FPS, I love it! Plus, they have the nicest airball field I've seen in this state. I just stopped going to Planet all together a while ago. Fields are too messy and the FPS is just way too low for my tastes (sometimes the rate of bounces is insane).
                              Converge Kills

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                              • Tom Sparkman
                                Registered User
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 128

                                #30
                                Originally posted by no1beefcake
                                That is such BS. I know if I spent 200 bucks on a paintball gun (no, I would never buy a Spyder), and it turned out that I had to replace or cut springs in it just to be able to play for the first time, I would be pissed. If the velocity won't adjust within legal parameters, it IS the marker's fault. It isn't a matter of setting it up, or whatever. We aren't talking about adjusting regs and timing on an Autococker; we're talking about internal springs on a stock Spyder. You would think that since it is such a common problem, and the fix is a shorter spring, that maybe they would start making them with the shorter springs...
                                I guess you don't understand stack tube blowbacks. You can only adjust the velocity so much by turning the adjuster - after that you need to change spring(s). The Sterling (a very cheap pump) is the same. Most of the SSBBs that I've seen will work great out of the box in the winter - then the first warm day of spring everyone is cutting their spring.

                                Tom

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