New Cocker 'System'??

[Krazy Ivan]

Qouted from the action pursuit games E-zine:
"GEMINI SYSTEM, From G-Force, is an upgrade available for Autococker markers that lowers the operating pressure to as little as 15psi, according to company info. The unit is being introduced at Skyball 2003."

Running a marker off of 15psi?? Hrm, believe it when I see it. Anyone else heard of this?

[Bob01RT]

Running the recocking pressure at 15psi. But I don't know anything more.

[PolishSausage]

It's ugly, stupid, and weird looking. I dont see the point of an extra LPR....

[Ov3rmind]

From what I can tell, it uses two different LPRs on the front pneus. This is so you can control the pressures used in the rear and forward strokes of the ram, instead of having the whole cycle be controlled by the same LPR pressure. The advantage to this, is that you can now have the forward stroke of your ram be a much lower pressure than normal, due to the fact that it's not pulling the hammer back. This is going to make the Cocker even more easy on paint than it used to be, we're talking maybe softer than Lvl 10.



All in all, a cool idea. But the last thing I want is more stuff hanging out of the front of my Cocker. If anything, I'll be looking into a Hybrid more than this (mainly due to the fact that there's no external ram, and the pump arm isn't running down the full length of the gun's body). My Cocker with stock internals can pinch paint anyway, it's all in how you tune your gun.



I will say one thing though, if you want a gun to tinker with, this is it. I can imagine myself spending hours just exploring the possibilities.

[LaW]

it looks good, however like you said.... there is already enough crap on a cocker so lets add some more stuff that can go wrong

[cledford]

I whole-heartedly agree! That thing is border line absurd! How much more stuff will they try to hang off the front of a cocker?!?

It seem really silly - especially since there are 2 e-cocker upgrades with ACE which will spare the chops in a much more eligent manner.

-Calvin

[AGD]

not to mention that it will make the system cycle slower...

AGD

[Jerhew]

i dont have anything else to say but

how incredibly silly
as already mentioned...just get an ace...(or an lx mag )
i think they've beaten "low pressure" to death already...

[PolishSausage]

Originally posted by AGD
not to mention that it will make the system cycle slower...

AGD

Another good point, and this coming from and AGD guy



j/k

[Me]

LOL, 15? wow. to far. it would just be a blow gun, it would have to push out air for like 3 seconds to get the ball going 300 fps down the barrel. am i right?
i dont think it would work with an eblade though

[thei3ug]

Originally posted by AGD
not to mention that it will make the system cycle slower...

AGD

It's all in the hips.

[Coaster]

if the forward cocking pressure is so low, couldn't you just increase the back cocking pressure(somebody pointed out it had 2 LPR's) and compensate the loss in the forward cocking pressure?

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by Coaster
if the forward cocking pressure is so low, couldn't you just increase the back cocking pressure(somebody pointed out it had 2 LPR's) and compinsate the loss in the forward cocking pressure?

Seems to me this is the point people are missing. Looks like a good idea, but it does make the front end look even more rediculous.

You`d think someone would try to clean up the look of DIY cylinders and tubes on the front end of a Cocker.

And ADG, I`m ashamed of you. Doesn`t Lvl 10 also slow down the cycling rate? Lvl10 does have the advantage that that it speeds up after passing the first low force stage. But with this cocker system, you can probably get the bolt to cycle back much faster than a mag without increasing ball chopping.

[InfinatyBPS]

Like a few people said, I think its a good idea and it seems like it would make the cocker easier on paint than it already is, I would buy it but I think its ugly and I don't want to waste money. But I think it wouldn't have any bad side effects, all it would generaly do is let the gun cycle faster when bolt is opening, and slower closing, if you adjust it right you would probably be able to adjust it so it would be equal or faster than before you upgraded. You would just need to compinsate for the slowered forward movement by using more pressure for the cocking movement.

[FreshmanBob]

Slarty, the bolt speed in level 7 mags was already so fast, slowing it down didnt effect anything. No one can pull 30 bps, so slow the cylcing rate down a little didnt do anything at all. However, most cocker can only cycle at around 20ish, so that will slow things down.

Oh yeah, neat idea but I'm wondering about the same thing Tom is. I doubt there would be any reliability issues, just one more knob for inexperianced users to turn.