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  • halB
    Registered User
    • Sep 2002
    • 953

    #16
    just for that, we shouldnt allow chicks to play paintball no more

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    • aaron_mag
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 1375

      #17
      I thought it was a strange article myself. I doubt that the editors of APG are advocating that stance. They probably just felt it was an interesting viewpoint so they printed it.

      For the record Jessica Sparks (who is the editor of Paintball Magazine and active in APG) is a very nice person and one of the early pioneers of paintball. I think I read somewhere that she and Budd Orr testified before one of the state legislatures to keep paintball from getting banned.
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      • back2integrity
        Recovering from myself
        • Feb 2003
        • 802

        #18
        Originally posted by Fred
        Political correctness: Why America is going down the tubes.

        ---Fred
        You offended me with that statement

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        • FooTemps
          HURRRR
          • Sep 2001
          • 6702

          #19
          wow... that'd just about kill paintball if teams had to meet that requirement... Guys outnumber girls in this sport because many girls don't want to play! Didn't she ever consider that before she even opened her mouth?

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          • demonguy8
            Jobless and Poor.
            • Jun 2002
            • 501

            #20
            having a group that posseses 1-5% of a population forcibly inhabit 20% of the player slots just doesnt add up...my question is (going by the example)..... is it more sexist to not have girls on your team OR is it more sexist to remove 2 potentially MORE qualified males and replace them with females?...o well this isnt the time or the place to start a "why i think affirmative action is hypocracy" rant..

            soo yeah anywayz... the only way ive ever seen women being treated differently in paintball is that theyre constantly being hit on... *cough capo *cough
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            • oldsoldier
              just choke yourself out!!!
              • Feb 2002
              • 2459

              #21
              I honestly dont think painball will be affected by this smallmindedness. One; it isnt truly a "recognized" sport yet. Therefore, they cant exercise that law. Two; you pay to play, making it money driven, rather than gender driven. True, most players are male; that doesnt mean that women are excluded. Thats just the way it is. Hell, most people would LOVE to see more women on the field! It would break down that "militant" barrier even more.
              It would come down to what the sponsors and the promoters decide.
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              • Carbon
                Word!
                • Jan 2003
                • 1589

                #22
                I Think Crazy is right, some of APG's articles seem as if they were written by kids. I guess th e "political" agenda is there, but the articulation/explanation is just short of the bullseye.
                In anycase, I think the "real" issue/querry this chick has is... how do we get more women to play?

                I reff at a local field and the ratio of male to female is somewhere around 13:1. Heck who knows it might even be biology which may account for the disparity in numbers...

                Going on a limb here, hypothetical question... 10 on 10 game of noobs vs noobs, opposing teams of the opposite sex. Which do you think will enjoy themselves more or will more likley to play pball again? obvious answer?

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                • Tyger
                  video /k radio star
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 1210

                  #23
                  I wrote a reply to that article, haven't sent it in yet, mainly becasue a part of me thinks it's a joke. "Affirmative Action" doesn't work in the long run. As noble he cause, the exocution is poor, at best.

                  If hte problem is scantily cald women selling product, the solution is easier. Don't buy the product. Duh. If the problem is that women are being restricted in playing paintball, then prove that women can play. Capo is doing this already, I can see her playing pro based on what I saw at Skyball. :)

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                  • PzYcO
                    PzYcOmagg
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1067

                    #24
                    I wouldnt mind having 2 girls on my team, it would be kinda intresting...too bad there arent that many girls that play paintball :/

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                    • dansim
                      ive been busy
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 4479

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ben_JD
                      Martin Short was a very accomplished synchronized swimmer.
                      Martin short is a ____ so its still only a female sport

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                      • Collegeboy

                        #26
                        It isn't about political correctness or anything like that IMO.

                        It sounds like to me see was denied a spot on a team, probably because she is no good, and she now is claiming it is sexist for they didn't want a girl on a team.

                        I can't see why any team wouldn't take a good player whatever their sex is. In fact given that most woman are smaller then men, it is an advantage to a certain degree.

                        Oh and the magazine probably had to post it, it wouldn't sound good if it comes out they are repressing the voice of the minority. (That is PC)

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                        • Jackel411
                          East Coast Anarchy...WHAT!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 882

                          #27
                          Wow... thats a bit much...

                          FYI this is local stats from a NY based field...

                          Staff: 65 people.... of that 5-6 are female.
                          My team: 50 people... of that 2 are female

                          Its a ratio that is mind boggling.. that concept that she wrote about could happen if more would play , which I dont see happening any time soon.....

                          As for APG??? THEY HAVE AN ARTICAL!!!!! Crap! I thought it was just 200 pages of adds....
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                          • shartley
                            paintball player
                            • Mar 2001
                            • 9169

                            #28
                            Affirmative Action and Paintball.Female only league.

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                            • JAM
                              Back from the Dead
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 953

                              #29
                              wow Shartley, take a breath...


                              well, i for one would like to see more women in the sport- i think it would help to defeat the image of paintball players as blood thirsty survivalists. BUT, quotas are not the way to go about it... good female role models in the sport to encourage new female players to start is a good thing. and once that base of player diversifies a lot more, then women will certainly show up on tournament teams. I'm not being sexist here so no flames, but paintball is not a sport based mainly on physical strength- like football for example... Paintball relies on speed and agility more. And i for one have known more than a few girls/women who were a lot faster and more agile than most guys.

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                              • breg
                                mean & hateful, fat & ugly
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 1037

                                #30
                                HMMMMMMMMM....

                                I agree with whoever said that APG is the biggest joke in Paintball Magazines. I really can't abide by a publication where better than half the content is ads.
                                That aside, I have to say that in my playing, I've never noticed any sexual discrimination. As a matter of fact, I've always noticed male player are harder on each other than female players. Unless their skills are not up to par.
                                But, I'll say this: if women want to make their own league, go right ahead. But, don't get angry if the guys make their own league as well. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
                                And, in closing, the idea that was brought forth about a certain percentage of teams should be female; that is the worst idea ever. Half the fun of playing a team is (hopefully) winning with your frineds. Not having to leave someone out based on that person's gender. Team size limit rules not withsatnding.
                                In the end, I've always thought of paintball as one of the great equalizers, where ANYONE could march onto the field, play their @$$ off, and be judged solely one's skill.

                                Maybe I'm blind.
                                Hope not.
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