How much energy is stored in HPA tank?

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  • AcemanPB
    Exactly
    • Mar 2002
    • 1885

    #1

    How much energy is stored in HPA tank?

    I was wondering if any knows how much energy is stored in a 68/4500 tank

    And if anyone feels like explaining to me how and what formulas to use to get the number I would be very thankful
  • FalconGuy016
    Divine Right, Pevs @ AG
    • Aug 2002
    • 6127

    #2
    I can find this out... hold on (ill be back to edit)
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    • ])arKNe$$
      Registered User
      • Mar 2003
      • 51

      #3
      68x4500=306000psi.?

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      • AcemanPB
        Exactly
        • Mar 2002
        • 1885

        #4
        No.

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        • Paintballer86
          Proud E-Mag User
          • May 2001
          • 1000

          #5
          Originally posted by AcemanPB
          No.
          I burst out laughing when I read this. (what Aceman wrote)

          And lets just say that it is enough energy to blow your arm off if you dis-respect it for even a split second or mistreat the fiber-wrapping

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          • AcemanPB
            Exactly
            • Mar 2002
            • 1885

            #6
            Well I do know

            Work = Pressure(Pa) x Change in volume(m^3)


            4500psi = 31026410 Pa

            I'm not to sure about change in volume I'm going from .00111432 cubic meters (or 68cu inches) to what? This formula also doesn't take into account the heat or any other factors that would play a role

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            • Kevmaster
              Owners Group Div: Director
              • Oct 2001
              • 5475

              #7
              Originally posted by Paintballer86

              I burst out laughing when I read this. (what Aceman wrote)

              And lets just say that it is enough energy to blow your arm off if you dis-respect it for even a split second or mistreat the fiber-wrapping

              I think he said it best

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              • AcemanPB
                Exactly
                • Mar 2002
                • 1885

                #8
                Yes I know this but I'm curious and want to know exactly how much energy we are talking here

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                • rifleman
                  I registered before you.
                  • Oct 2000
                  • 592

                  #9
                  Well, I've kinda wondered about this myself and I'm not sure if energy is even the right term to measure it.

                  E = force * distance
                  which is:
                  Energy = mass * distance/time/time * distance

                  Well your mass is easy enough to figure out. I 'think' you'd have to find the velocity and acceleration of the molecules moving within the tank--which is directly proportional to the volume and temperature of the tank.

                  so in other words... hell if i know


                  Adam

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                  • rifleman
                    I registered before you.
                    • Oct 2000
                    • 592

                    #10
                    ^ That equation is for potential energy.. but it may be kinetic energy we're measuring since the molecules 'are' moving inside the tank.

                    So relate to this ke = .5 * mass * velocity^2

                    But still, you'd have to find the velocity of the molecules.

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                    • askman
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 463

                      #11
                      in 68ci at 4500psi, multiply the two, you have 306000 lb-in or 25500 foot-lb. One Horse power is 33,000 foot lb per min. same energy as running 1hp motor for 46.4sec.
                      that is lot of energy. When tank bursts, it is releasing this instantly.(fraction of sec)

                      25500 foot lb, assuming that you are 255lb wil lift you up 100ft or 10 stories.


                      One horse is lot of energy. it is 746watt of energy. 746joule/sec

                      it is same as 34587 joule of energy in that tank.

                      1 joule is 1newton moving 1 meter.

                      1 newton is 1kg, 1m/sec^2

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                      • xen_100
                        super-uber spyder tech
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 1203

                        #12
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                        • Hunter
                          Eat pie and be like me :D
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 525

                          #13
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                          • 2k1angel
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 36

                            #14
                            In short it could rip your arm off.
                            its not what you know, its what you can prove

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                            • Doc Nickel
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                              • Jul 2001
                              • 499

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hunter
                              you people have to to much on your mind.
                              -It could be argued instead, that you don't have enough.

                              Doc.

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