Matrix or Timmy or Angel?????Help!!!!!!

[Ov3rmind]

Originally posted by paintball8869
i dont understand half of you people. Everyone that complains about the intimidator being too light is friggin insane. People complained the classic was too heavy, Bob made a lighter gun to please people. Now people complain that he made it too light? You friggin people are nuts.

Different people complained.

[paintball8869]

Different people complained.

Good point.

I would just like to know where the "toy" or "cheap" feel kicks in. Is there a magical weight that anythign below it is too light and above it is too heavy?

Is the xmag too light? How about the fly angels? Matrix, only shot a few of those, not too heavy, not too light. Maybe that's the magical weight?

[del]

yeah i know huh.
but intially i wanted to hear what people recommended. i wanted to know the reason behind why each indivdual person had choosen one of these particular guns that i posted. i figured that many people in here had at least one moment to shoot one of these guns, and i wanted their feedback. thats all, dont worry what you write in here doesnt go unread. i take all information and absorb it in a way that it would help me out and narrow my selection. who knows i might have the samee preference as another person who has replied to this thread. thanks again guys, but im still listening.

[gcube]

get a timmy fool

[845]

Originally posted by DutchNut
if ure timmy breaks paint jsut lower the operation preasure alittle like to 70 or u cna get a volumizer and drop ure operation preasure to 45 or below. Mine is at 45 and it WON'T chop lets say it can't chop.

Right now it is at like 70-75 cant read gauge easy. Its in the barrel though. I dont feel like going into it now I will probably make another thread about it later.

[Ov3rmind]

Originally posted by paintball8869



Good point.

I would just like to know where the "toy" or "cheap" feel kicks in. Is there a magical weight that anythign below it is too light and above it is too heavy?

Is the xmag too light? How about the fly angels? Matrix, only shot a few of those, not too heavy, not too light. Maybe that's the magical weight?

Well, everyone has their gun preferences. Most people do like their guns as light as possible, and I can see the reasoning behind that. For me and a few others though, there comes a point where if a gun is too light, it just doesn't feel very stable/solid.

I generally prefer guns around the weight of Angels and Matrices (although Mags and Cockers are Ok too). Not too heavy, but not too light for my preferences......... LOL, I'm a very picky person .

[boomerfoxtrot]

Originally posted by mykroft
[B]Timmy: nice marker, hardest to shoot fast, worst build quality, low maintenance, requires few upgrades.

Timmys have a crazy rof! and are EASY to get rolling! so I don't know what he is talking about, but I own a GZ and it is CRAZY, LIGHT, SMOOTH -no rise while you shoot-, QUIET -not near as loud as the 02s and Dragons-, QUICK, EYES, and shoots at a LP.. so it's hard to chop a ball anyhow..

my GZ recock runs around 65-70 and I can run the gun without the eyes and will not chop paint.. now I have to recock it when it hits a ball, but it doesn't break the ball that's how soft it is...

and low maintenance? ... the timmys are some what "high" maintenance, you have to keep your regs greesed, and your eyes clean..... but you should do that with every gun... as far as replacing things... O-rings and bumper last about 6 cases maybe more.. depending on how much you dry fire...

and upgrades... you can do ALOT of upgrades on the timmys.. get an 02 then you'll have to get the WAS board.. get a GZ and it's not a must, cause the GZ has a fast board in it =] the new ones are even faster... get 2.+
board and you'll be ok...

out of your three... go timmy! get a GZ!


I've shot a Trix, and they are nice guns.. but get timmy over the Trix any day...

the Angel... they are good guns, but get one with an EYE!!
that's the worst part about the Angels... they need to be STOCK with an eye...

[Cliffio]

you cant buy an angel with an eye


anyways, eyes are too tempermental, they cant shoot every type of paint, and dont always work, ive shot impulses with eyes and i know the new pds eye for the bustmaster will chop


chopping is just a part of paintball, so to say that no gun chops or breaks paint is a flat out lie

and no eye can stop barrel breaks which do happen


Cliff

[JT2002]

Originally posted by Cliffio
you cant buy an angel with an eye


anyways, eyes are too tempermental, they cant shoot every type of paint, and dont always work, ive shot impulses with eyes and i know the new pds eye for the bustmaster will chop



Cliff

well an impulse eye is very different than a timmy eye. ever since my WAS board, was eye, warp and adjustable ram cap I NEVER chop. i played with it saturday and never chopped even once. The timmy eye works great and sees ALL paint, much unlike the impulse. and of course NOTHING can stop barrel breaks, but thats something that happens with all guns. also since the WAS board has the FORCED eye mode it NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER
Chops! get the idea?

[Cliffio]

whatever you say chief

[JT2002]

Originally posted by Cliffio
whatever you say chief

THATS IT SON!!! IM NOT TAKING ANY MORE OF YOUR C0CK3Y A$$ ATTITIDE!! NOW DROP AND GIMME A HUNDRED PUSHUPS!!! YOUR GONNA BE SKINNING POTATOES TILL THE PIGS FLY NOW BOY!!!
jk at least i trained you well

[Klay01]

Originally posted by Cliffio



ha, what a joke
the mini reg on the angel works perfectly, it does not work well with other guns with high rates of fire because it isnt made specifically for that gun, its made for the angels lpr design, take your anti-angel propaganda elsewhere

and what difference does the reg make for playing different positions?

obviously clueless

Ok, Um the angel front reg recharges in 10 seconds did you know that ? I guess you didnt because you are

Originally posted by Cliffio
obviously clueless

[Cliffio]

first of all, just because the reg takes longer than some to FULLY recharge does not mean that it isnt a good reg.

the reg works with the angels LPR set up, so that no shoot down occurs.

rather than standing on one point that makes no difference lets pick something about the gun that is an actual downfal

and you sir are clueless because for some reason you think a reg will make a difference on what position you plan

perhaps you think angels "lob" paint too

[boomerfoxtrot]

Originally posted by Cliffio
you cant buy an angel with an eye

I thought the Angel IR3 had an eye in it... ?


and your right about barrel breaks it happens.... but the differnce is, paint in the barrel or paint in the breech... and the barrel is SOOO much easier to clean on the field...

If you shoot a Revy, Halo, Egg, or any "feeding" loader then you put your trust into EYES,

LP when the bolt hits the ball, and EYES are very important... that's why the XMAGS have LX and ACE... AGD just made the LP bolt stike better, so you don't have to "recock" .... it just vents.... as where LP bolts jam... in order not to chop.... .. I think.. lol ...


Timmys are GREAT guns, but I think I am about to trade my to Trench for his norise, LX, Ule Emagum..

[GT]

Originally posted by Cliffio
first of all, just because the reg takes longer than some to FULLY recharge does not mean that it isnt a good reg.

the reg works with the angels LPR set up, so that no shoot down occurs.

rather than standing on one point that makes no difference lets pick something about the gun that is an actual downfal

and you sir are clueless because for some reason you think a reg will make a difference on what position you plan

perhaps you think angels "lob" paint too

Cliff,
why do we feel the need to protect the angel's reputation?

I just bought another angel(#3). It should be in today and pics up tonight. Let me put it this way, whever i see a timmy, trix, cocker, etc at the field all i think is 'nice gun' when I see one of my angel toteing brothers my first thought is 'well i need to get this guy off the break' does the gun make the player? NO, but i do understand the mindset of most angel owners.

SO please dont buy an Angel. The range sux, they break paint, anno sux, and are hard to work on. Stick with a trendy gun that has all the latest gadgets and shoots real fast. God knows we need one more kid to show off next to the chrono

Jason "angels suck" B