AO Army, Let Your Voice be Heard!

[ezrunner]

size and prizes

Tournaments seem to be priced ok now, most of the higher level stuff is sponsored, so those I won't get heavily into.

I think that 3 & 5 man stuff should be cheap to get people into it.

Then 7 & 10 are more since it takes more to put on the event.

Cost should be reasonable and based on the fields, number of teams, and prizes.

I'll pay more if there are great surfaces (Like Xball at world cup. Best grass ever), more prizes (random giveaways), and a lot of teams (I wanna play different people).

-rob

[sniper1rfa]

as has been stated, here in mass the entry fees are rediculous.

I wuld pay more for better reffing, as that has always been a problem around here. however, i would absolutely love paying less for either paint or entry.

[Mossman]

I played my first PNL subbing in for some guys on AO nightmare that couldn't make it. I'd say paint quality/price is the only thing I'd complain about. The refs were attentive, didn't botch too many calls that I saw, and the whole thing went smoothly.

While the prices are high, and it's obvious that everyone who is able to is gouging, that is the problem. The CCPB owner dude (don't know his name), knows that if PNL wants to run these huge tourneys, they have no choice but to run it at CCPB. There are no fields within like 100 miles that could handle what CCPB handles. Mike (that's the PNL guy, right?) is therefore paying more for renting out the place than he'd prefer, so he pushes the costs to us by selling us crappy mis-shapen 40 dollar cases for 70 bucks.

I figure if I tie up all my money in a car I won't be tempted to drop 150 bucks on a tourney I don't even do well in :)

[shartley]

[TheJester]

i think it would depend on the type of tourney. there's some of us who have never played in 1 before, and if there's a $500 entrance fee, we prolly won't start getting in to tourney's. but if you have tourney experience, you and your team are confident, and there's a big enough top prize to justify the expenses, then go for it, what do you have to lose? so i think it would be nice to see localized tourney's priced low (which they usually are) and i can see why there would be a considerable jump in price when you start getting into regional and national circuts...they're alot bigger, so they need more capital

[EsPo]

i dont think prizes have anything to do with a tourny, im in it for the fun, and the prizes are just a small extra thing if you win. i would like my entry fee go towards skilled refs rather than prizes. I mainly play 3 mans, and the better the ref, the more fun you have, even if there is only one per field, the should at least be skilled.

[Star_Base_CGI]

Tom tell your friend, Ill see you at Spplat Attack 2 but...

Id also have to say that the price range for SPplat ATtack 2 is at the top end of what I could afford. I was horrified to think it might have been held at Hollywood Sports park. As with anything companies have to provied custmoers with some value.

Consider how much it would cost to hold a PB benifit in Hollywood, for hotel, room board and food versus EMR. The only people that would show up is celebrities.

As with any buisiness overhead is a factor.

If you can make your marker, field, whatever cheaper than you can offer a cheaper price. More people will buy.

do you want to sell 100 units at $1000 = $100,000 or

2000 Units at $100? = $200,000.

1,000,000 units at $10 = $10,000,000.

Of course if you could sell a plastic Xmag for $10 you would reach market saturation. Buisinesss would close. XMags would break and people would by more XMAGS or in this case. Tournaments.

Its your buisiness you decide?

[FutureMagOwner]

all you mass guys should check out the tournaments at warzone in ri this year they are always cheap and the teams would be a bit fairer if they didnt get a bunch of rookie teams then one amerature team, if they hade more teams they could split the 2.

[Thordic]

Starbase, he was talking about tournaments, not big/scenario games.

[the123]

After participating in many tournaments the past few years, I think the coolest tournament was Skyball, The tournament itself was on the mid to high end as far as cost. However the VENUE in which it was played was something that few people get the opportunity to do, play in a major venue like a real PROFESSIONAL athelete. That said, I think that the VENUE is the most important factor.. The larger, more well-known the place is, the bigger turnout you shall receive. Second to venue is PRIZES. People want CASH prizes, most people who are good enough to place high enough in a tournament for a major prize (1-4) already have paintball equipment. It's redundant to give them MORE of it!

[fire1811]

just look at the NPPL this your
if all tourney could be like that...mmmmmmm nice

[ShooterJM]

good refs
Players party
decent security over staging area

If you've got the means, get a cameraman for each field, tape the games, burn em onto CD's and give copies to the teams so they can see their game. (could pay for itself by selling VHS of all the games)

That would command a premium right there.

[JesseB]

well I would pay no more for a tourney than I already do without
1)better prizes... case o' paint or a spyder compact isnt cutting it any more
2)Better Refs
3)seating besides bleachers
4)allowed to coach from staging/bleacher area
5)recognition for wining maybe at a player party like someone mentioned
6)insurance for stolen crap
7)better fills
8)free food(crackers? hotdog? sandwich? chips?)
9)free drinks (can be plain ol' water)
10)better fields
11)fewer teams in each bracket
12)allow younger kids to play with the older (our tourneys are split at 18. 18 and up in one bracket younger in another)

[Scooter/Cootie]

Originally posted by fire1811
just look at the NPPL this your
if all tourney could be like that...mmmmmmm nice

Ditto. I think it's the little things that make a tourny fun and enjoyable to attend (Even if your not in first place at the end of the day).

The NPPL this year has done a fantastic job to cater to the players. Free bottles of water & fruit, cooling tents, individual team tents, a player friendly field layout, a spectator friendly venue, ect. The list can go on and on. Based on what I've heard, I really wish I would have had the opportunity to play out in LA.

I would definatly pay more to enter a tourny if it thought well enough in advance to provide the little things that make the experience more enjoyable.

[alkafluence]

Originally posted by tremis
It seems like a good number of high quality refs is the way to go. Some places have good refs, but need more refs. Also heres a thing about paint, make it BYOP. I myself would pay more for a byop event. Then I'm the one who gets to decide the quality of my paint. It seems like most fields need nicer staging areas too.

Tremis

I agree wholeheartedly here. I would not mind at all paying a higher entry fee, if it allowed me to determine the quality, bore, and type of the paint I'm using.

In essence I think that this would make a lot of teams more inclined to play regional/local tournies that do not operate this way, because it's one variable you can take out of the equation on how your day pans out. It also may make it possible for more teams to cross the cost barrier.