Super Light Mechanical Trigger Update

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  • Cryer
    Paintball is over.
    • Nov 2002
    • 4105

    #136
    One thing is for sure:
    one of those kits, when they become available, will be shipped to a humble little town called San Angelo, TX.

    However, I do have to balance my limited finances between an X-valve, Y-grip (upon it's much anticipated release), this mod, and the usual expenses (ie: eating food)
    If I knew about when the Y and this mod were to be released, I could better plan for my financial future

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    -We own j00 all.-

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    • Hexis
      Green Mag Freak
      • Sep 2001
      • 2427

      #137
      Re: reactive

      Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
      So Hexis I presume you shot it in manual mode to test the new superlight trigger... couple questions:

      1.) how much difference did you feel between the electronic trigger and the superlight? I presume there was plenty, as electronic is insanely light, but I'd be curious to know.

      2.) in manual with this new trigger, do you still get the reactive feel of the trigger pushing back on your finger? is it reduced or the same as a Mag with the XValve in it right now?
      In manual mode. Tom had something going on, so EMode did not work. All I really have to compare it to is my ReTro, Classic and a friends XValve. It was insane light. Not as light as the EMags I have tried in the past, but pretty close.

      The reactive feel was non existant. From what TK described this was an option he was playing with to avoid all the anti-RT stuff going on in some parts of the paintball world. What I shot was not a finished design, it still needs some adjustment. Even in it's raw form it was very nice. I'm sure TK will end up with an insanely nice mod. Finally, we will have the proverbial "Mag trigger job".

      Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
      3.) and idea where exactly the Modification goes? is it something in the grip helping to pull the sear? does it replace the sear rod? is it up near the valve? what is actually causing the improvement?

      Any light you can shed on these would be great, and if Tom mentioned when it'll be around and available we're DEFINITELY like to hear that. Thanks!
      No idea about the internals. I don't think Tom will share that until the design is fully finished. He did say the parts were fragile, and he was thinking about having it done in SS to help with durability.
      Last edited by Hexis; 05-05-2003, 12:52 PM.

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      • jaylock33
        Registered User
        • May 2003
        • 206

        #138
        Lighter pull would be a nice little suprise for someone on the other end of a mag
        anyone who tells you there are no such things as stupid questions is lying to you so they can laugh at your questions.

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        • reefer madness
          Registered User
          • Apr 2003
          • 114

          #139
          Re: Re: reactive

          Originally posted by Hexis



          The reactive feel was non existant. From what TK described this was an option he was playing with to avoid all the anti-RT stuff going on in some parts of the paintball world.
          NO! with no recive trigger i would have no need for it. i was looking for the lighter pull to make my rt faster like surpass the electros fast(or at least keep up wthout fanning). RT+1/3pull=fast as hell for a mech

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          • reefer madness
            Registered User
            • Apr 2003
            • 114

            #140
            im wanting the rt kickback of the trigger to still exist. sweetspotting is not what im going after due to internal damage/tourny rules i just want to increase my ROF. stock mags vs rt with intelli and trigger mod vs emag of course the emag will be fastest but the modded rt will be damn close i think with the mag taking a very distant third.

            is there still kickback with this mod?

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            • Jerhew
              Riverside Regiment
              • Jul 2002
              • 677

              #141
              maybe Tom purposely turned down the tank output pressure to take the rt affect out...if what Hexis said is true, Tom is looking for an alternative to rt's so he probably wanted to show off the trigger without any reactiveness

              merely speculation...
              maybe Tom would shed some light on the situation...
              TheDuelist "The problem is that Tom has developed the VW Beetle of the paintball industry. It's almost too good to change and far too reliable."

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              • Hexis
                Green Mag Freak
                • Sep 2001
                • 2427

                #142
                I got the impression that you could choose to have the RT effect or not. That could be totally wrong, but it's what it sounded like to me. I would wait to hear from Tom either way before you get too excited.

                I know some folks are worried about the RT style triggers being banned at tournies, so Tom is working on a solution. He does have the RT effect working, so give him some time to prototype the non RT effect stuff too.

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                • cdawg
                  not your average dawg
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 289

                  #143
                  I too would like this mod to maintain the reactivity of the RT Valve. If it did not, then there would be no reason to have an RT valve over a Classic (weight set aside). Realistically, shootdown is not a problem when you can't shoot over 10bps.

                  I bet Tom and his elves sit around reading our ignorant speculations and laugh all day.
                  Respect that.

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                  • aut911
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 674

                    #144
                    I really want to see this mod come into production because i really want to waste a couple of angels at my next tourny because they think mags suck. If there was only one thing that I like about Tom(besides the mustache that reminds me of my dad) it has to be the fact that he never stops improving his products.

                    my hats off to you Tom.

                    aut

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                    • MinimagRockin'
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2000
                      • 471

                      #145
                      I find it hard to believe that the paintball world is whinning about the RTs yet they have no problem whatsoever with electronic markers that have literally hair triggers that can reach bps of ridiculous speeds, seems like a witch hunt to me. I mean I can understand them not wanting you to go full auto on your rts, no problem, but otherwise...

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                      • AGD
                        The man from AGD

                        • Oct 2000
                        • 5916

                        #146
                        The trigger Hexis shot did have some reactivity to it you just couldn't feel it too well. We are going to put more back in, it currently doesn't have enough.

                        AGD
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                        • afrankart
                          driving blindfolded
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 713

                          #147
                          I'm 1000% sure that in (hopefully) a short while I will be the proud owner of a SFL triggered mag.
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                          • ntn4502
                            Environmental Geologist
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 1637

                            #148
                            Originally posted by afrankart
                            I'm 1000% sure that in (hopefully) a short while I will be the proud owner of a SFL triggered mag.
                            LMK, maybe we could play sometime

                            Drink Wine

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                            • Magluvr
                              Registered User
                              • May 2002
                              • 158

                              #149
                              Am I right in believing that this mod will work on my LX Mini, or will I have to go ReTro/X to use this mod on my gun. (This is probably a really lame question to most, but some people give me the impression that the Mini AIR won't work with the mod.)
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                              • FooTemps
                                HURRRR
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 6702

                                #150
                                Magluvr, it will work on ALL MAGS. That's what TK said and if TK said his mod will retrofit all mags then it will.

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