Next batch of Xmags

[TequilaMockingbird]

I was drooling when I first saw the Extreems and SFLs, but when I finally got enough money freed up, they were long sold out. Although I liked the SFL body better, I decided to settle and go with an X-Mag. Well, they were sold out for 2002, and I was going to have to wait several months before the next run was scheduled. Finally I just said screw it, and got an E-Mag that had been sitting at the local proshop long enough the owner came down to $500 on the price (it was a tourney winning.) Waiting for months on a marker just didn't make sense to me. High-end markers are a luxury, not a necessity. As a potential customer for a luxury item, I don't think it's being unreasonable to expect a certain level of product availability especially when an item has been hyped like crazy. Yes, it's a fantastic gun, but so are Angels and Timis. It does no good to have the best design in the industry if it can't be placed in the hands of the players. Eventually people with either give up and go elsewhere, or it will no longer be cutting-edge when it becomes available. I love my E-Mag to death, but I occasionally feel like I kinda settled. These are paintball guns, not F-18 Hornets or nanotechnology. The X-Mags work. Therefore it stands to reason that it shouldn't be horribly difficult to duplicate the process, especially when they will be snapped up as fast as AGD can crank them out. After all, innovation is harder than replication. The market is there, the advertisment and testimonials are there, but where's the product? It's sad to see ads that basically say "This is our flagship line.... shall we put you down for May 2005, or do you want to go with our second stringers?" I'm uneasily reminded of the Destroyer, the gun everyone was ready to sell their mother for, that just never made it out there, and sincerely hope the X-Mag doesn't end up in the same boat.

[nuclear zombie]

am I the only one , who looks at the x-mag ads , billboards , and then feels bad when people come to this site wanting to know where thay can buy an x-mag , and you have to tell them they have to wait on a list for 6-8 months ?

oh well ,back to dreaming about getting an x-mag .....

[magking1971]

Thats like when Tom had us come up with a ad for a magazine,
WHY?? If you have no product why have a ad selling them?

[wyn1370]

Big question is will they have any for IAO. If not, what's the point of the having a big billboard advertising it?
If you think about it, they shouldn't have any, cause we all know how long the waiting list is.

[dre1919]

^^
Good points. This is the biggest thing I can't understand...the production. I mean, sure, on one hand TK might say "Well, there's no reason to produce 3,000 of these in a huge run or something and then have overages of stock" but I think we know this wouldn't happen. Besides, that's business...you have to take some risks sometime. I'd love to see AGD carve out a much larger stake in the paintball world than what it's slid to, and I think this marker would be the thing to do it. However, if there never is a supply of it available, it won't matter how cool it is.

I remember a time in paintball when Automags and Autocockers were the best things out there, unfortunately that was a long time ago. It can be that way again thanks to the X, but we gotta get them out to the people.

[madmatt151]

AGD Products....

I have loved and always will love AGD products. I started loving them almost 10 years ago when a friend got his custom set up Minimag. He bought it at Cousins Paintball in Long Island which some of you know and love/hate. Well, quite a few years ago they stopped carrying all Products associated with Mags. They have a few barrels lying around, maybe some loose parts or accessories and that's it. They are one of the biggest reseller of paintball related items and they won't carry ADG stuff. I have asked and asked and they keep giving me BS reasons why. My point is that in this neck of the woods people only remeber AGD products from way back when. They don't know about the new stuff and aren't interested. When I go to big paintball stores I don't see the products on the wall, and I don't see peole selling them. I do agree the X and even the E mags are serious markers and are as good if not better than everything else out there. But the majority of players out there don't even know the company exists. People on fields have looked at my marker and shot it and have been very impressed. When they ask me what it is and how to get it, I gove them the address, but know that certain parts they won't get. People here are always saying not to bash newbes and to encourage them to get into the sport and to stay in the sport. Well when they save up the $1500 or break out the credit card for the latest and greatest marker, they aren't getting AGD products, and that upsets me. I can't believe it doesn't upset anyone at AGD. Maybe it does, but it doesn't seem like it. This is not a bash, and I hope it doesn't sound like one. Again I love AGD products and will always stay with them, but something has to be done in order to get these markers to higher production. I am not saying flood the market. 70 a month seems fine, just keep it going at 70. In this area of NY, there are a lot of people who are willing to shell out the big bucks in order ot have the best. Right now they are all shellng it out for IR3's and Matrixes and "Suped Up" Cockers. This should change!

[dre1919]

^^
Word.



Good post bro.

[Creative Mayhem]

The only info i could find out about the current batch was that they were stuck in US customs. That was about 2 weeks ago.

CM

BTW... Mine is in this batch!!! w00t!

[Laxpunk2006]

It's not so much the wait that bothers me. Its that a realistic date has never been put out. I don't post here much, but I've been following the X-mag progress since, pretty much when it was announced. I saved up my money, and had my eyes set for one when the estimated realase date was around Christmas. When it didnt come out, I couldnt wait any longer. I needed a high end gun so I settled with my Angel. I'm very happy with my Angel, but I wish I could gotten an X-mag. I understand these things takes time, but I know AGD has some money. They should be able to afford to expand to more machines and crank these things out like they do everything else. I've been happy with our active AGD has been on these forums, letting us know about new products and ideas. I just wish they could put this one more into reality, and crank some more of these babies out. Hopefully when they get into full production I'll be able to afford one, because they really do look tempting. Dre, what's wrong with having an Angel when you're 14. I worked up to 12 hour days last summer when I was 14, and bought mine. Not all kids are spoiled, some really do work for these luxuries.

[battlegroup]

I was told in the beginning of april that they would probably be ready in 4-6 weeks, but since the last batch took 8 weeks to get out the door to plan on that. Seeing that it has been 4 weeks since they called me, I'm betting that it will be a few more before they ship.

These will also have the Annoed to match X-valve and the milled battery packs so they may take a little longer!

If you can't tell, Mine will be in this batch as well!

[nuclear zombie]

Battlegroup,Creative mayhem , if yu don't mind me asking what month did you order your x-mag ? I'm guessing about september , october ,just trying to determine with the current schedule how much longer I have to wait for mine :)

[Psycho Chicken]

Mine is suppose to be in this batch as well. They called me to pick out the color about 2 1/2 or 3 weeks ago, that's the last i heard. I don't know about CM, but i preordered mine on october 4 (if memory serves me right). So, it still looks like the wait is about 6-8 months for preorder to getting your number called.

Hey CM, what color did you order. I wound up asking for a black and Yellow acid wash (they told me they would ask to anno dudes), if not i will be getting a black to yellow fade.

By the way could any photoshopers out there do a gun for me. So i can see my baby now. Thanks in advance.

[GT]

In all honesty,
I am not playing the waiting game. When AGD gets there stuff togther and actully builds production stable xmags i may buy one. I cant see 6 months and 1.4k for any gun.

jn

[battlegroup]

I ordered mine in July of 2002 but I kept asking AGD to push its production back until the Annodized valves were ready and the milled battery packs too.

[banzaimf]

I too have been on the list since July. I got a call in Jan about whether I nted in. Due to no response on a special anno job I want done, I decided to wait till the next bunch. Called Marcia tuesday and was told that they missed my order (and still don't have anay word back yet about the anno job) for this batch, but they will put me on the batch after this one. This batch is still awaiting for all the parts, some were sent back to the machine shop, before going to anno.