why does everybody get so upset over..

[xadamx]

poor air efficiency? i mean unless your playing at a field without all day air or you are playing outlawball , why does it matter to people so much if their gun gets crap for efficiency? if you just watch the gauges on your tank you will know when you are about to need air. check your tank after every game, if you know youll need air take the 2 minutes to fill it up again. if youre playing a tourny look at your tank after every game and tell your pod "assistant" ( ) to be ready to go fill your tank after the next game. maybe im wrong but i just dont see why it matters to everybody so much.

maybe its a pride issue.. "yea well your gun might shoot faster than mine but mine has better efficiency.." type of thing... i dont know

[JAM]

Well, i get so pissed off because my field doesn't have the all day air thing... I mean, it really adds up when you need to pay for a fill every 2 games. Any fellow Pev's @ A.G. peeps out there agree? They make tons of money as is, give players the option of $10 all day air or something like it.

-j

oh, and aside from that, as long as i can make it througha game, i don't really care too much about efficiency, but wouldn't it be better to get more shots in general? I mean, less things to worry about/deal with.

[Phil]

Efficiency becomes an issue when your tank is filled and you cant shoot your hopper and four pods without running out of air. You could throw the paintballs at them but unless you hit em in the mask they aint gonna break.

[Ultimator]

The thing about poor air efficiency, is the shop and the field are really far away from each other where I play. So even if you have all day air, when you walk up to the shop you always miss out on a game.

[Mossman]

Also when back buys in major tourneys want to be hosing 8, 9, or 10 pods a game, they can't do that with an emag unless they want to run a gigantic tank. Just the fact that the emag gets maybe 60% as many shots on a fill as some of the extremely efficient guns is enough to surely keep it out of the hands of some tourney players, guaranteeing even less tourney exposure for AGD.

mmmm Xmag

[xmetal2001]

Finals in a 3 man tournament, about 3 minutes left,its a stalemate, and I run out of air...Thats not a good thing...

While we did end up doing ok due to my insane screaming and scaring the crap out of the other team...it sure helps when you can shoot back.

[WARPED1]

Re: why does everybody get so upset over..

Originally posted by xadamx
poor air efficiency? i mean unless your playing at a field without all day air or you are playing outlawball , why does it matter to people so much if their gun gets crap for efficiency? if you just watch the gauges on your tank you will know when you are about to need air. check your tank after every game, if you know youll need air take the 2 minutes to fill it up again. if youre playing a tourny look at your tank after every game and tell your pod "assistant" ( ) to be ready to go fill your tank after the next game. maybe im wrong but i just dont see why it matters to everybody so much.

maybe its a pride issue.. "yea well your gun might shoot faster than mine but mine has better efficiency.." type of thing... i dont know

I concur............
Doesn't bother me at all. 88CI 4500 PSI Crossfire.

[SlartyBartFast]

The Automag needs high input/dump chamber pressure to overcome the bolt spring.

Would using a ram to return the bolt and removing the spring not reduce the required pressures and increase efficiency?

[einhander619]

possibly. That ram oprated bolt would be an interesting project. However, that would take away the huge benefit of simplicity the mag has by adding an LPR, and then the LX system would have to be either redesigned or thrown out. I believe punisher has done something like this, but ut was done for speed, not shots per fill.

[Blazingace]

I play back for my 5-man team. I use and Lvl 10 E-mag with a 68/45 PMI. At a recent tourney we could only get between 2800 and 3500 PSI fills. I would have to fill every game but I would shoot a hopper and 4 pods with it. I didn't have too much of an effiency problem then. I am getting a 88/45 tank to expand my ability for possible 7-man games.

[personman]

I'm thinking about it, and I have a 3.2 redz dimention pack.. yet I have a 68/3k tank.. pretty stupid if you ask me.. how can I possibly shoot a hopper and 5 pods and not run out of air?
I think I might step up to a nicer tank sometime in the future, but I bet I'll survive through D-Day, as long as I leave the dead zone with a full tank every time..
Honestly I dont care about effeciancy, not that I dont try to improve it (correct level 10 adjustments, good paint/barrel match) because my field has all day air..

I can see why it would matter if you diddnt have all day air though..

[hitech]

It only bothers me when I run out during a game. I fill up before each game and I've run out (big barrel, little paint).

[Ov3rmind]

Poor efficiency sucks because:
A. I don't want to use any tank bigger than 68ci.
B. None of my local fields have all day air. This phenomenon has yet to catch on in Utah.

[j.t.]

When you have better air efficiancy you can run a smaller tank. Therefore better air efficiancy equals a lighter setup.

[Grasshopper]

When I go to my real field, I can get cheap all day air, but when I'm out of money, and don't have the $20 entry fee, I go to a free field. It's not "outlawball", since it's cool with all the neighbors and cops, and 30+ people show up every Satuday for the last 5 years, but the thing is, the only takes anyone ever brings is CO2 scuba tanks. So, if I run out of air after a game or 2, it kind of ruins it.