2004 EMag???

[JT2002]

i think having separate rail makes it look that much better. with out separate rail it really reminds me of a trix body, big and fat

[fcpchop]

wow took me like an hour to read it but sounds really cool

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by JT2002
i think having separate rail makes it look that much better. with out separate rail it really reminds me of a trix body, big and fat

Railess ala Micromag. Better IMO.

[JAM]

Well, OK, glad this resurfaced... I have an idea for a new take on it, maybe for later today... But, two things-

1. mainly to Gunga- why shoudln't the E look at all like the X? everyone agrees the X looks good, and to use your car maker analogy, most car makers redesign all their cars to look like they are in the same family.. New honda civic and the new accord for example. Does the Civic bite into the accord's market? maybe a little, but so what? Honda is still making the money. What does AGD care about New EMags biting into the XMag sales a little bit? AGD is still getting the money. I hesitate to call the EMag "affordable", but compared to the X it is. So, doesn't it make more sense to have 1000 $1000 markers out in the players' hands rather than 100 $1400 markers? a redesigned mag to compete with the impulses, matrixes, new shocker, Speed, etc.

And i think the price point could be $999 street- XMag with MUCH simpler milling, minus the ACE, minus the removable breach, limited colors. why not?

2. Shartley- damn, one or two colors please... we get the point

-j

[WARPED1]

Cool, I'd look into one, just need the body tho, unless I sell my current emag and just buy one.

[Gunga]

Originally posted by JAM
mainly to Gunga- why shoudln't the E look at all like the X? everyone agrees the X looks good, and to use your car maker analogy, most car makers redesign all their cars to look like they are in the same family...

Well, as I've said before (and to summarize for those who don't want to go through the whole thread), I do like your design Jam. However I feel that it's cosmetically too similar to the X-Mag. Looking like the X-Mag isn't a bad thing, but why not go in an entirely different direction? To put it another way, pick two people that you find equally attractive from a physical standpoint. One might be brunette, another a redhead. One tall, one short. One light, one dark. Is one 'better' than the other? Not necessarily, even though they look quite different. I think that comparing Jam's E-Mag to the X-Mag is like trying to figure out which of two cute sisters (or brothers for you ladies) is the better looking.

Speaking of sisters...I heard Uncle Phil has some sort of story he could relate to us...?

Anyway, back to the subject. When you boil down to it, a Mag is still going basically look like a tube with a handle on it. For me, that's enough of a family resemblance. Besides, it'd still say Airgun Designs on the valve.

[LoveMyMagMoreThanYou]

..........and who hasn't dreamed of dating identical sisters?

[WARPED1]

Differen't but similar would be cool. Like the speed, unless you're holding it, you can't tell it's not an IR3.

[JAM]

I think it's more of looking at the younger- but still of legal age- younger sister of a really hot girl...

They are both beautiful, one has more experience and one is cheaper... errr, um, the XMag is nice and the Emag is nice...

I'm working on a new look anyway. new directions are good in general,
j

[fearc7]

You know you guys, the original idea of the xmag was to change the milling every year I believe. So maybe, next year AGD can do them selves a favor and make the design affordable.

Also, do you guys understand why WDP can offer their guns with equal quality milling in much better quantity? It's because WDP was smart enough to buy all the machinery neccesary to build all their guns in the factory, and enough of it to meet demand. With AGD's extra money this year, they should invest in the machinery to do their own work. I strongly disagree with relying on other companies to do a job.

AGD needs to step it up and take a direction of meeting demand. They are one of the biggest paintball companies, its time they start acting like it.

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by fearc7
You know you guys, the original idea of the xmag was to change the milling every year I believe. So maybe, next year AGD can do them selves a favor and make the design affordable.

Also, do you guys understand why WDP can offer their guns with equal quality milling in much better quantity? It's because WDP was smart enough to buy all the machinery neccesary to build all their guns in the factory, and enough of it to meet demand. With AGD's extra money this year, they should invest in the machinery to do their own work. I strongly disagree with relying on other companies to do a job.

AGD needs to step it up and take a direction of meeting demand. They are one of the biggest paintball companies, its time they start acting like it.

I concur. AGD would make thier cash back if they could bang out those things in bulk.

[sniper1rfa]

Why get rid of the ACE? you know how cheap it is for the components and PCB? dirt.

they already have the programming, and the slot for the ace wont add much to the cost of manufacture. it would take like a couple second tops to mill it.

The way you have to design a body is not by simple looks, but by simply design. one which can be milled using a plan 3-axis mill with little finishing. say, all done with a flat end-mill, maybe with slots or curves done with a ball end-mill. none of the wavy 3-D surface like that used in the x-mag,

think intercepting geometric shapes cut in and/or extruded from the body, with edges which can be filleted with a corner rounding bit.

anything that forms a complex curved surface on all three axi cannot be machined with a specific bit. instead, it must be cut with the toolpath, which is hard and VERY time consuming, and the problem with making the x-mag.

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by sniper1rfa
Why get rid of the ACE?

Because it's not needed with LX, just a waste of money. It would bring the price down for the consumer.

[shinobidice]

I think that if AGD made ULE-Mags and just made things look a little nicer (not saying they're not) they could make some good profit.

Didnt TK say something about a new lower end gun made out of bits and peices of AGD's stuff, not a new compleyelt different higher than x-mag cost gun?
i swear i read that somewhere.

[OmniM]

simpler...

I know, its a pretty old thread, but can this body be made? There are ALOT of talent here at AO, so I feel nothing is impossible

/OmniM