2004 EMag???

[AGD]

WOW!! Big reaction to this thread. Guys you are forgetting that the Emag is a retired design. We are moving on to the next generation of superguns that will have all the performance of electros with the simplicity and reliablity of mechanics.

Think smaller, lighter and FAST! At home on the tournament field or underwater in a scenario game. Fixable, walkable, and affordable! The Xmag is not producable because of the removable breach. Too many problems with ano and such for a high end marker. Look for a custom slug approach like Nicads in a lean mean fighting machine!

AGD

[OmniM]

WOW!! Big reaction to this thread. Guys you are forgetting that the Emag is a retired design. We are moving on to the next generation of superguns that will have all the performance of electros with the simplicity and reliablity of mechanics.

AGD

But.. but... we have to wait sooooo long for the new toy

[jewie27]

Dude,

A revamed E-Mag is pretty much a X-Mag, so you aren't really getting anywhere. I would have to say to get anywhere, revamp the X-Mag which may become the 2005 Mag. (hopefully with direct 4500 psi recharge)

[Dayspring]

And get what, 20 shots out of it?

Dude,

A revamed E-Mag is pretty much a X-Mag, so you aren't really getting anywhere. I would have to say to get anywhere, revamp the X-Mag which may become the 2005 Mag. (hopefully with direct 4500 psi recharge)

[68magOwner]

Dude,
(hopefully with direct 4500 psi recharge)

why would you wish this aoupon AGD? people are already scared off from AGD products because there not LP (yea, cuz, you know, that makes things better adn all) even if a higher input created performance benefits, why, no one can out shoot the valves now anyway, and people already complaighn about not being able to shoot deep into tanks, try telling them that they now HAVE to buy a 5000psi air system and they will still get less shots than any otehr marker with a 3000 psi air system, a 4500 recharge could also be EXTREMELY dangerious if messed up, and with paintball injuries being portrayed as they are now, why create something that could potentially lead to more accidents?

Honestly, as much as i love mags, i thing it would be better for AGD to make a more conventional marker (electrophenumatic) as well as mags. I mean, im shure AGD could make some awesome improvements to todays electrophenumatics. which could make them more money for R&D on mags

[jewie27]

why would you wish this aoupon AGD? people are already scared off from AGD products because there not LP (yea, cuz, you know, that makes things better adn all) even if a higher input created performance benefits, why, no one can out shoot the valves now anyway, and people already complaighn about not being able to shoot deep into tanks, try telling them that they now HAVE to buy a 5000psi air system and they will still get less shots than any otehr marker with a 3000 psi air system, paintball injuries being portrayed as they are now, why create something that could potentially lead to more accidents?

Honestly, as much as i love mags, i thing it would be better for AGD to make a more conventional marker (electrophenumatic) as well as mags. I mean, im shure AGD could make some awesome improvements to todays electrophenumatics. which could make them more money for R&D on mags

Low Pressure is a myth. Read Tom's posts and also read his hints on 4500 psi recharge.

[LoveMyMagMoreThanYou]

I think that what he's trying to say is use unregulated air from the tank to recharge your xvalve. Then the xvalve would work as normal. This would require quite beefy plumbing, though. It would also cause some safety concerns.

[Target Practice]

WOW!! Big reaction to this thread. Guys you are forgetting that the Emag is a retired design. We are moving on to the next generation of superguns that will have all the performance of electros with the simplicity and reliablity of mechanics.

Think smaller, lighter and FAST! At home on the tournament field or underwater in a scenario game. Fixable, walkable, and affordable! The Xmag is not producable because of the removable breach. Too many problems with ano and such for a high end marker. Look for a custom slug approach like Nicads in a lean mean fighting machine!

AGD

I don't see why it is so hard for the AO community to put the Emag to rest. I mean, sure, they're schweet. They're wicked. But they're dated. Let it go, and allow AGD to come out with something with a higher schweetness/wickedness factor. Just look at the improvement from the SS body/valve design to the ULE/X-valve setup. They came up with a winner there, and I for one am willing to let an old favorite go in order to get another winner.

Anyhoo, just my $.02.

[spasticsquirrel]

i think that you dont need 18 volts to power a marker. Use a smaller battery in the grip like other markers, but i still like the batter front grip, its something... differmet. My idea is that it should be sold as a marker, a set (all componants), a kit (some componats, like board, solinoid, and microswitc, first aid kit, whatever), and individual peices. Also, i wouldn't mide the 4500 psi valve, as long if it regulated it effectivly, and it acted like a tank regulator so you could get lots of shots off of it, that would be sweet, exept of getting the air saftly to the valve. Either that or a E-valve that has a solinoid to push the air, i wouldn't mind if it was a bit longer.

[Cryer]

WOW!! Big reaction to this thread. Guys you are forgetting that the Emag is a retired design. We are moving on to the next generation of superguns that will have all the performance of electros with the simplicity and reliablity of mechanics.

Think smaller, lighter and FAST! At home on the tournament field or underwater in a scenario game. Fixable, walkable, and affordable! The Xmag is not producable because of the removable breach. Too many problems with ano and such for a high end marker. Look for a custom slug approach like Nicads in a lean mean fighting machine!

AGD

Whatever you guys do, make the bodies like PTP- one-piece, with integrated rail. The split between the rail and body is a big cosmetic fault, IMO...

[jewie27]

Whatever you guys do, make the bodies like PTP- one-piece, with integrated rail. The split between the rail and body is a big cosmetic fault, IMO...

That would make install and removal of the sear difficult.

[Dayspring]

No more difficult than the Xmag. Unscrew the axle, take body off. REAL tough.

[Bad_Dog]

Jam... you are awesome! Those renditions of your idea make me want one soooooooo much...

I agree with the idea, although if that body/rail was put on a mech mag, cut the back half of the regulator off the valve and put one of those caps in it... and regulate the input to the valve, that would be one sweeeet mag while making the body look a little shorter...

what are your ideas?

[Bad_Dog]

I remember awhile ago that someone made a cap for the valve that allowed someone to leave the regulator off, the other side of the story was that the input pressure had to be regulated by an external source... well I figure since most other markers require such external regs... why not a mag?

heres what Jams idea would look like if it had no back half on the valve, although imagine a regulator instead of the battery pack...

[Aliens-8-MyDad]

and where do you recomend we put the existing bat pack?