Autocockers: Your Thoughts

[Ov3rmind]

This is an excellent thread.

From what I have seen, the Mag/Cocker hate between owners has been dwindeling over the past few years. This is great, because both are truely excellent paintball guns. However, you'll still run into the ignorant SOBs every now and then.

[AFRaven]

Wow. I am surprised this thread got so far. While I was out and about today, I decided I am going to go with a Mag. They can be just as "sexy" as Cockers, and they can perform just as well. However, feel free to keep commenting on the topic. I, for one, have seen a much more ignorance based rivalry between the Spyder users and the Tippmann users.

[Ov3rmind]

Originally posted by AFRaven
I, for one, have seen a much more ignorance based rivalry between the Spyder users and the Tippmann users.

I don't want to stereotype here, but you're probably right. Spyder/Tippy owners are typically newer players, and I've found newer players are more compelled to brag about their guns with less info to back it up with.

[AFRaven]

Yeah, well I am ashamed to admit, at least in the Automag forums, that I am a Spyder user (sigh). I have been playing for about a year and a half now and I know the game pretty well. Not only am I looking for a better gun, I am sick of getting picked last for RecBall, when people judge teams by guns

[Grasshopper]

There's absolutley no shame in owning a spyder. Hell, I still play with my bro's TL+ every once in a while. I love using a variety of guns. Everyone around me has a 'Cocker, and I'm the lone mag user. That's actually one of the reasons I like my 'Mag. It's unique, and that's the way I like it. Not only that, I can easily keep up with my friends 'Cocker all around.

[Ov3rmind]

Grasshopper is right, there is nothing wrong with owning a Spyder. I owned a TL+ for a little over a year myself. I still find it fun to use (when my friend wants to use my Cocker for a game, he has my old Spyder) on occasion.

[nerobro]

*reads up a bit* As i said, my spyder has become my tourny gun ;-) no shame in that.

[G F K]

I have personally owned both, and I feel it is all about preferance, they are completely different in the way the shoot.
I personally love the way cockers shoot but they are way too big for me. eventhough i know there are mini cockers, i just couldn't afford it, so i ended up trading for my Mag and i love it.

Mags are for some people, and not for others. as for the others they are just hatin.

[FooTemps]

Cockers and mags feel and shoot differently. I've shot both, and blah... Slide trigger cockers aren't my boat. I haven't shot a swing trigger cocker but slide trigger cockers feel funny in my hands. I can't fire them right. The mag on the other hand I can fire pretty easily. I liked how the cocker felt in my hands but the mag is just easier for me to use.
It's just a matter of preference.

[boggerman]

I own both, and like both. I bought a cocker so I could learn about it and tinker with it. The person I bought it from told me it had been "professionally" timed and was ready to rock. Great, I thought, I will be able to play with it for a while before I have to mess with it-WRONG! Professionally timed evidently only means that everything with threads has red loc-tite on it. The cocking rod was set too long, and the sear lug was set too short(and had so much loc-tite that I twisted my allen wrench real bad trying to adjust it). I seem to have it pretty good now, and I am thinking about upgrading the stock pnuematics, any advice here would be appreciated. I am thinking a Bomb 3-way and a KAPP fatt ram, but I don't know what reg would be best.

Here is another reason I bought a cocker, you can upgrade every part of it and some will even enhance the performance of the marker while making it look cool!

[minimag187]

Ive owned 3 mags, a bushmaster, a 98 cocker, and now my ir3 and evolution x. They are both very nice, but I dont really like cocker triggers so I am selling my evox.

[GT]

Originally posted by AzrealDarkmoonZ
Cledford, I disagree with the fact that no other regulator can achieve over 9-10 bps without shootdown,

that isnt really what he said

none of them can hold a candle to the RT and from what I can see - as it is impossible for a human to fire it BEFORE it has completely recharged due to how fast it recovers.

He is talking about firing it before the valve has recharged..

jn

[AzrealDarkmoonZ]

gtrsi,

Cledford: Anyhow, with any other reg it appears you can start to outshoot it over 9-10bps. That means shoot-down and inconsistency - although it varies based on gun and reg setup. The one thing for sure is that the RT will NEVER suffer from the problem.

I am afraid that is exactly what he said...

Unless I am taking it in the wrong way.

Az

Edit: Although he did say it varies he implies more overtly that no other regulator can keep adequate pressure at 9-10bps.

[GT]

Originally posted by AzrealDarkmoonZ
gtrsi,
I am afraid that is exactly what he said...
Unless I am taking it in the wrong way.
Az
Edit: Although he did say it varies he implies more overtly that no other regulator can keep adequate pressure at 9-10bps.

i am still confused by his statement. So the RT is the only valve that recharges so fast there is the inability to prematurly release recharging gasses?

hmm..

why have we not seen a test on how many FPS loss it takes to see shootdown, ex actuall loss in distance? sorry that was a side note.

jb

[Automaggin2]

Originally posted by NJPaint
After owning both, all I can say is that its a personal preference, mags don't break, cockers require lots of matenance, if thats your thing then hey go ahead, they are good guns.

hahahaha my cocker requires little maintence. it reuqired the same amount as my mag, it just takes a little more time to fix them if they go down.