Didnt Agd Patent This????

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by steveg
A Hall effect sensor is just a switch, good for Tom
for figuring out that it would make a good trigger switch
for a paintball marker BUT it's still just a switch
you might as well try to patent the use of o-rings in a
marker

SP would try tp patent Orings.............

[raehl]

You wouldn't patent a switch. You'd patent using a HES as the triggering device for a paintball marker. Not the same thing.

- Chris

[bornl33t]

that's all nice ang good, but what cracks me up is " a totally unique trigger feel" bah, Maggers are years ahead of the rest of you guys. we are L33t!

[cphilip]

Well thats just it Chris. The idea of a HES to control a trigger isn't new...just the Paintball application. Now we have seen that this is all it takes for someone to get a new patent but that is just plain rediculous realy. Just taking old technology and sticking Paintball in it somewhere should not a Patent make... In my opinion. But it seems it does...

[raehl]

You're preaching to the choir.

I ain't saying that's the way it should be, just the way it is. The US Patent system is ripe for some fixing (cough software patents cough).

But I digress.

- Chris

[magman007]

Well, id like to see toms response on this... maybe he will come in and let us know

[spydervenom]

probably if the way its setup is different then it can't be infringing. but i'm just guessin b/c i dunno.

AGD sure has pulled off some good patents...like any frame less than a 45...thats great.

[cphilip]

Re: You're preaching to the choir.

Originally posted by raehl
I ain't saying that's the way it should be, just the way it is. The US Patent system is ripe for some fixing (cough software patents cough).

But I digress.

- Chris

Yea Sorry I didn't mean to imply that you were Chris. I knew you weren't. I guess I was just voicing some of my frustration with this sort of thing. I mean this kind of frivilous patenting is not good for the whole of the paintball industry realy. If simple technology cannot be applied to all the things then it stiffles the whole progression. I just think its bad for the business.

[TNS2k2]

A Hall effect sensor is just a switch, good for Tom
for figuring out that it would make a good trigger switch
for a paintball marker BUT it's still just a switch
you might as well try to patent the use of o-rings in a
marker

well didnt WDP patent their IR trigger for their new mem6 boards? i believe they did, oh so i guess you can patent a switch for for firing a paintball marker...

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by spydervenom


AGD sure has pulled off some good patents...like any frame less than a 45...thats great.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no. AGD wasn't even the first one to use 45.

[raehl]

Not a 45 grip frame, he means at an angle less than 45 degrees to the marker - although I believe he is incorrect, and the AGD patent actually covers any grip where the angle from the barrel to the grip is less than NINETY degrees.

I'm sure someone with a little more time on their hands will be happy to go find and reference the actual patent.

- Chris

[AGD]

Our patent is still processing through the patent office. Until it issues anyone can do anything they want.

AGD

[puckmaster]

what happens in this situation when it does go through?

[Lone Brain Cell]

Originally posted by Muzikman
And so is the idea of an LCD display screen in the grip frame, but some how WDP got the patent on that

The thing is, when someone releases an item and they state that this item has a patent that doesnt mean that that full item has a patent on it. it probably is only on 1 tiny part in that item. But you would have to wait until u could have a look in the patents office, and read the patent in question to figure out just which part has a patent. I garantee that just puting a patent on a grip frame wont get a patent. because a lcd & a gripframe have already been invented. just by puting those 2 togeather wont give ya anything & even if u do manage to miraculously "get one" it could be challenged big time.

[raehl]

Huh?

You most certainly can patent putting together two things that have already been invented. You could patent a new variation on one thing that's already been invented.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=golf+ball&FIELD1=TTL&co1=AND&TERM2=&FIELD2=&d=ptxt

1,962 patents JUST on golf balls.

- Chris