Broken Pipe Tip, Anyone else seen this problem?

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  • omni
    omni wang
    • Nov 2001
    • 369

    #1

    Broken Pipe Tip, Anyone else seen this problem?


    EM01698 2/3rd's ULE-EMAG, PipeKit, SystemX drop and 88/3k PE.
  • xen_100
    super-uber spyder tech
    • Oct 2002
    • 1203

    #2
    there might be a slight imperfection in the ano, but I highly doubt it developed cracks in the aluminum. (unless you are using it at a wiffle bat)

    also, that far up the barrel, are your breaks only at the very end? or in other places in the barrel?

    "super multi-green mag" Cp barrels, LX bolt, no-rise, intelli, 47ci flatline, halo................
    Red dragun body, turbo valve, 12" Boomstick, Spud magics anti-chop bolt with quickstrip, ELCD, nitroduck 68CI,Gas thru stock, 12V revy, AGD Warpfeed system
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    • cphilip
      Former Moderator

      • Jun 2026
      • 16216

      #3
      Sounds like a miss milled one to me. The roughness you feel is the tip off its seperating. I certainly would call em and see what they want to do about it. If they are worth thier salt at all they will want to look at it and will make it right. And I would like to know what kind of customer service they extend to you when this happens. Report back to us what your experience is.


      AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

      cphilip.com

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      • rikkter
        • Jun 2002
        • 1804

        #4
        i guess its that 'extreme special milling' they do with those holes

        that sucks tho, does the pipe have a warranty for defected products?
        viking #619

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        • omni
          omni wang
          • Nov 2001
          • 369

          #5
          PMI(heads up evil CS) Got back to me within the hour and were sorry to hear about my problem. They gave me a number to call to get a RA in Canada and I called it up. The guy was helpful, and was willing to make a RA number for me, but offered the suggestion of first going to the place I bought it, where he said I might have better luck getting a replacement quicker.


          I chose to go back to the place of purchase, where I'll talk to them and see what's going to happen.


          And no, I wasn't using it as a bat haha. I've had it for about 2 months now, it's seen quite a bit of play, practice and one tourney. I think it might have been a botch anno job or something. Yes I'm getting ball breaks at the end of the barrel, I can see the ball/shell/paint exiting the barrel at high speed and traces of paint in the last few porting holes, cleans out after one shot though.

          EM01698 2/3rd's ULE-EMAG, PipeKit, SystemX drop and 88/3k PE.

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          • xen_100
            super-uber spyder tech
            • Oct 2002
            • 1203

            #6
            sounds like they have good customer service then

            botched milling or ano, sounds like the culprit.

            "super multi-green mag" Cp barrels, LX bolt, no-rise, intelli, 47ci flatline, halo................
            Red dragun body, turbo valve, 12" Boomstick, Spud magics anti-chop bolt with quickstrip, ELCD, nitroduck 68CI,Gas thru stock, 12V revy, AGD Warpfeed system
            Xen's paintball pages

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            • chronic john
              coo coo for the coco puffs
              • May 2003
              • 59

              #7
              same thing happened to my freinds one has a tippy and the other a cocker . both happened when they were 2 months old . deffidently some type of flaw in the metal . they havent called yet but i told them go c-p all the way for the little bit more they cost its worth it and they both did they are both lookin to get refunds weather the problem has been fixed or not . this could turn out to be the next firestone tire scam bring them in and we will give ya the same stuff back . oh well go c-p
              owned mags since the begining of time . arguably the best gun in the world . 12 years with both mags and still not a stumble in either one . over a billion bunkered .coming to a feild neer you slinging streams of paint and taking names .

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              • cphilip
                Former Moderator

                • Jun 2026
                • 16216

                #8
                Well three of them we now hear then... and they have not been out THAT long and telling you to go back where you bought it because it might be quicker? Well I am not gonna declare good customer service THIS fast. I would wait and see what the out come of some of these is. Lets see if everyone can inspect there Pipes and see what they are looking like after some use.

                The more I look at that tip the more it appears to me they did not leave enough meat between them furthest ports there. Its thinner there and those holes are a bit close together there too. I am fearing its gonna be a frequent problem. It might require a redesign to fix that. Replacement will only be temporary fix if thats the case. Time will tell.


                AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                cphilip.com

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                • omni
                  omni wang
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 369

                  #9
                  Well by good I mean, they offered a RA number to take it back and replace it, or go right to the store where I bough it as they might be able to replace it right away, and have the store do the RA stuff.

                  We'll see, but so far they're on my good side

                  The way the porting is milled on a angle could also do it, towards the end it's quite thin. I just don't get how it Cracked the same on all sides at the same time. I've taken good care of this.
                  Last edited by omni; 06-17-2003, 04:13 PM.

                  EM01698 2/3rd's ULE-EMAG, PipeKit, SystemX drop and 88/3k PE.

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                  • cphilip
                    Former Moderator

                    • Jun 2026
                    • 16216

                    #10
                    Vibrations or something causing stress during the act of shooting. I mean there is some serious movement going on there and if anything can give it will. Means its too thin in those areas if it does though. Thats what I am thinking...


                    AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                    cphilip.com

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                    • Strider
                      Thunder Chicken
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 1562

                      #11
                      Well if you wouldn't put so manny cased thorugh it in a night, it might not have cracked under pressure eh? Ripping up the place with your Emag Omni?

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                      • omni
                        omni wang
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 369

                        #12
                        Me, naw ... I'm modest on the trigger. Which reminds me I've been having some trigger probs lately too! Like mis fires on the first shot, and I don't know why. I hear the solinoid semi cycle on the pull, but no shot.

                        EM01698 2/3rd's ULE-EMAG, PipeKit, SystemX drop and 88/3k PE.

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                        • Strider
                          Thunder Chicken
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 1562

                          #13
                          One of two things.

                          First, charge your battery and see if that works. If it's getting low, that sometimes happens.

                          Second, it could be a LX problem. I was plaugued by a first shot blooper for a few weeks in the winter. Course, I attributed that to changing temperatures. Now that the temperature is above freezing, the o-rings won't be changins as much. Try retuning your LX.

                          Third, take all your on/off and LX orings out and give them a bath. As odd as this sounds, that sometimes fixes my problems.

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                          • Evil Bob
                            Evil Overlord
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 1217

                            #14
                            This is the same type of break that occurs with the Freak tips where the porting is extremely agressive and leaves very little meat between the ports and someone cranks on them to fit them securely into the back.

                            The shear in the picture you provided is rotational (angled) instead of straight down the porting line, which indicates it you were screwing it in holding onto the ported end.

                            I'll check my Pipe tip when I get home, I don't believe the ports are as close together and the one pictured here.

                            -Evil Bob

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                            • mrhooie
                              paintball enthusiast
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 517

                              #15
                              I've had about 2 dozen Pipe kits through here, each one I inspect and have not seen anything like that.
                              But - I remember SP and some misalignment in the Freaks - and they took care of it quickly. A good company won't let you down - and I think EVIL is trying to be that company - I'm very happy with them

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