AGD status on flatline reg seats?????

[fire1811]

just wondering what the status is on the 4500psi reg seats for flatlines.
thanks
curt

[cphilip]

They got some and built 68ci tanks with em last week. But I think they exhuasted the supply they had when doing that. So waiting on more. Thats what I know of it. They did not fill all thier backorders with what they had.

[fire1811]

k thanks
i would like to have a spare
but they havent had any for a while

[Dayspring]

I want my 88/4500.

[Blazingace]

Ditto.......Dayspring.

[adam shannon]

yesterday when i called to pay for my x-mag...ohyeahbaby! i asked marcia, she said they were testing the ones they got in before ordering a huge lot of the new ones...at least thats the last she heard.

[cphilip]

Well not to contradict Marcia but they BUILT 50 68/4500 tanks with them. So they must be past the testing of them to do that. Unfortunately they ran out (I guess) without building any of the 88's. This was last week when all these were built so I have no idea when you talked to her. Or its possible she was just unaware it had progressed past that point when you talked to her.

[VIKING]

I have been talking to Jon over the past week and according to him they do not know when any new reg seats will be in. He could not even estimate when, or even if at all.

[cphilip]

That is the case from what I understand. What they had from the first batch of testing ones were all used up building those 68/4500's last week.

[Dayspring]

[JEDI]

What is wrong with a company that can't square away the production of a tiny peice of rubber that they've made hundreds of in the past? Tons of people own these tanks, and need them.

Production complications with a huge product like the X-mag, OK, but all this drama about a reg seat... Come on!

I'm really starting to doubt all the production excuses with EVERY product AGD puts out, when other companies have no problems with producing products of equal quality.

I feel like I have to be part of some Secret Dealer Club, just to get a reg seat. "Well so-and-so has em, but I dont know...."

[Dayspring]

from what Tom said at the Megameet, the company that was making them has since stopped making them and AGD was looking for a new source. But you're right, this is getting ridiculous.

$400+ tank held up by a $2 part.

[cphilip]

Oh I hear ya brothers...

Heck I had three in my tool box of the old ones I sent in to get some of you guys some tanks done and low and behold THOSE were declared bad. Brand new ones!

I would assume this first lot of test ones did pass inspection because they were eventualy used to fill some of these back ordered tanks. And so one must then continue to assume they put in a larger order for more that is in process. I would have to guess that for lack of any other info at this point.

[adam shannon]

as a high priest of the cult of Kaye, newly ordained at the megameet, i have to wade in. we all grilled tom about the production delays. he told us the reason for some delays is that they only use american shops (when possible) that they have dealt with in the past, and who can keep the strictest tolerences and QC. if you want cheap stuff turned out in bangladesh for $.01 cents an hour then buy a mass produced piece *cough* *spyder* *cough*. but tom takes his rep seriously and told us he would rather be slow and sell superb worksmanship than take a hit for crappy work sold quickly.

as for the reg seats. they were a specialty piece made to agd's specs, its not like an o-ring thats made by thousands of companies. there was one company on the planet that made them for agd. well, they for some reason went under or just stopped making them leaving agd to scramble for a new source. tom said they found a company in europe (uk maybe) that accepted the job for more. first they produced samples that arrived a month or so ago. once the samples were tested a small order was placed. if those all work out then they will be mass produced and we will all be happy. it takes time to bid out, design, plan, produce, test new parts. especially a part that needs to be made of special matterial (not just bar stock aluminum).

[JEDI]

Maybe Tom needs to compromise between quality, and availability. WGP makes awesome products, and I've never experienced a problem with their stuff taking so long. A lot of other companies make great products without the rediculous wait. You make it sound as if AGD is the only company putting out quality stuff, and 4 months wait for everything is normal.

The design, research, test, plan, produce excuse is getting old. You shouldn't have to redesign and research a product you've already made, just because someone else is making it.

Say what you will, but the reality is I've had a leaky reg seat for months now. I play paintball, lots of paintball... and that's not acceptable.