Bps: Stop The Madness!!

[Konigballer]

This is going to sound real dumb, but I'm not really going to know about the higher end of the "bps" world until I get my ULEmag together. The only other guns I've actually shot is my old tips and spyders. When u guys say your gun can rip 16bps, or 20bps, are you saying you can physically shoot that many paintballs in a second or that your GUN has the capability to do so if you could theoretically pull the trigger that fast. I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding, I've got a string of 12 in the back once but I'm sure it took longer than a second for the guy to shoot 'em, he was just an a..hole. I'm just trying to imagine some newbe poking his trembling head around a bunker and getting ripped across the face with 16-17 rounds in the time it takes to blink! Is that what u guys actually do nowadays!? Tell me if I misunderstood the whole bps debate. Regardeless, the modern speedball "battlefield" seems to have become a much less forgiving place!

[yeahthatsme]

well, i can(I ME) shoot 12bps in a long string or like 14bps in a burst.

[Cha0tic]

its all marketing, and money. customers always want the fastest, lightest, best looking, ect...

if your marker can shoot faster than the competition, the customers will buy it...

[puckmaster]

On my e-mag, i got like 13 BPS, and on my Dark IR3, I got 15 CPS.

[GT]

Konig you will find that most of the bragging rights people have are from shooting the gun at a chrono, w/ just air, or gun only.

The fastest I can shoot is maybe 15bps. Honestly I think most folks are just full of BS to sound cool on the net. I would be very very suprised if most of your emag/x/angel/timmy owners get anywhere near 17bps. more than likley if you took an average at a tourny you would see people shoot 8-9bps and maybe strings from the back players at around 12-15.

jb

[Teen]

i outshot my ricochet 2 times this week, while shooting long strings of paint. i dunno how fast i was shooting though.

[FalconGuy016]

Yes, people actually move the trigger that fast (12-16 usually I read) and you can see it in videos and such

but think how long a second actually is, it really isnt as short as you think when it comes to reflexes. Its very unlikely you will be hit in the face with a full 16 paintballs

[FeelTheRT]

Originally posted by gtrsi
Konig you will find that most of the bragging rights people have are from shooting the gun at a chrono, w/ just air, or gun only.

The fastest I can shoot is maybe 15bps. Honestly I think most folks are just full of BS to sound cool on the net. I would be very very suprised if most of your emag/x/angel/timmy owners get anywhere near 17bps.

actually its harder to shoot fast without air, beucase with air, your hammer and bolt are moving back and forth and you bounce the trigger slightly.

go out to a tournament and ask to shoot a Timmy with a WAS board and i guess you WILL be suprised. Ask someone to donate you their Timmy for a game then read your max BPS at the end of the game.

[FeelTheRT]

my friend's Ironmen Intimidator... well it used to be his, he sold it to BluStreak81

if you can't read that it says 25bps

[FeelTheRT]

that says 23bps

[GT]

Im sorry but I just cant believe what a gun says. I would love to see actual data from guys playing "in the field" Not wasting paint at the chrono. I want to know the pratical application not "I fired 3 shots in .xx seconds therefore I shot 30bps"

jb

[FeelTheRT]

well if u put it that way, no can can sustain a consistant stream of say around 15bps. I'd say the average on any electro would be 6-10bps but it was due to a few shots that were at a rate of 17 or even 25 persay that makes the LCD display that information because a gun can not display your average BPS accurately due to the amount of time on the field that your not shooting.

[Konigballer]

If the high end guns can and are used to shoot 12bps+, why not just make more guns straight automatic with adjustable bps rates? If the tournament level markers are firing as fast as many real life automatic weapons in "semi" mode, why even bother with a semi mode with that level of performance. Why dont they make full auto markers tourney legal as long as theirs a bps cap, say at 20 or something. Their matching the fire rates of real automatic weapons anyways. I know theirs intense pride currently on what everyones bps rate is, but whats the point, why not save the finger some strain? What do you guys think?

[FeelTheRT]

because its not the same. Full auto, you have no control over how many balls your putting out. People will just end up holding the trigger and putting 6+ shots on a person. On semi mode, even though it can be as fast as a marker on full auto, the user has more control over the amount of paint comming out. It's really an issue of safety. Personally, i think there are bigger issues to be resolved, such as cheating.

[Lopy-slopy]

FYI, when people say they can shoot their emag 16 or 19 bps it's always refering to how fast THEY can pull the trigger(or they have FA on). An emag valve, or RT or X-valve(all the same function) have been tested up to 25 BPS.
I wouldn't put too much bank into the whole ROF competition because most players don't shoot over 14 normaly and any descent gun can reach that speed. You realy don't need insane ROF. Focus more on actualy hiting the person.