Time for a new gun.

[$tevo]

ok guys, i know your gonna say whatever feels right to me. but i dont wanna hear that, i wanna know what you PREFER. I dont wanna go over 1100 right now, and i was lookin at the Orracle, Matrix, Bob Long 2002 or GZ, or an Angel IRC C&C. They are all around the same price(except orracle, bout 150-200 cheaper). I wanna know what gun you think would be better for a middle/foward player. just give me opinions guys

[SIGSays]

BYOM

build your own mag

[Ov3rmind]

Angel Speed, Viking/Excal, E-Mag

Those are the only electros I'd own.

[$tevo]

sig i have a 68 classic right now, i love it, im probly puttin a ule body on it soon, its goin to be my backup, its the most reliable backup you can ever have! theres never anything goin wrong with my mag. but i want an electro, or an oracle then when i get used to cockers i will put the eclipse frame on it. but the ir3 c&c is only around 995, and thats pretty cheap, i am leanin towards that or the oracle right now

[$tevo]

overmind, why speed over the ir3? if i was to get a mag, it would be an xmag, but those are 1300 and i cant really afford those right now

[68magOwner]

get a viking or excal, they rule

[$tevo]

68mag owner, how do the vikings and excal rule? what make them better then the other guns on the list?

[ReTro Boy]

Just my thoughts...I love my C&C iR3. Great gun.

[Nick O time]

go with the speed

just like the title says

[Steelrat]

Vikings:

-Operate at low pressure. Can be set to pinch balls.
-Gas efficiency, on the order of 2000 rounds with a 68/4500.
-Warranty: lifetime on their mechanical parts, and WAS has a lifetime on their board.
-WAS board standard, need I say more
-Eyes a $20 upgrade
-No other upgrades necessary, comes with a great reg, valve, and bolt. In fact, I NEVER hear of anyone replacing those parts.
-Type 3 anno finish, VERY durable.
-Extremely reliable.
-VERY high ROF.
-Cocker barrel threading
-Minimal maintenance necessary i.e. 2 drops of oil in the ASA and lube the bolt after playing. Thats it.
-Very few people shoot them, making them rare and interesting.

[Ov3rmind]

Originally posted by $tevo
overmind, why speed over the ir3?

-Lighter
-Faster
-Trigger is easier to adjust
-Sensi > COPS
-No breech O-ring to lose
-Better designed (more consistant) Minireg
-Volumizers can actually lower it's operating pressure due to rearranged internals, unlike past Angels

[CrazyLad]

Go for the GZ Timmy!

[SlipknotX556]

No dont go for the GZ, you will hate yourself. It will become a pain when you want to set your dwell and debounce, you CANT because you dont have an LCD screen. Both the GZ and the 2k2 are the same price new, go for the 2k2, it will be easier on you.

[$tevo]

slipknot

whats the difference between the 02 timmy and the GZ timmy? what one is overall better? and this will be my first electro, is it worth it spendin 900 right off the bat or should i go for the matrix and upgrade it as i go? and where would i find the IGC Vert Frame for the matrix? i cant find one anywhere

thx.
-$tevo

[rehme]

i know this is not one of the choices but.......i would say a vapor bushy

fast out shot my egg2
efficent 1100 shots off a 68/30
wont chop with the sp mod
can get the eyes but dont need it 'cause sp mod