Time for a new gun.

[lack of grace]

Originally posted by Spartan X
Just save a couple more hundred and go all out on a X-mag man....

Vikings shoot better and cost less...That really wouldnt be going all out.

[$tevo]

shoot better huh?? sweet..

how do i put a pic in my sig

[Spartan X]

Shoot's better then a X-mag...Man I want what he's smoking, because it seams to be working

[No sKiLLz]

Originally posted by Ov3rmind
Come to think of it, my whole time reading about Vikings, I have NEVER once heard of drop off problems with them. It's designed rather well, and if there is any dropoff at high rates of fire, it is likely barely any (plus, in the unlikelyhood of that, the SCM would probably end up solving it).

Consistancy Somtimes on mine the consistancy isnt all that great, ...

There is a break in time on this marker. Brand new it will still perform fantastic, but after about 20 cases you will actually be able to lower the pressure on your marker. I wouldn't do this unsupervied though, try to get a techie to look at it and see if its ready.

Stock its capped at 12.9 balls per second. If you want you can get it reprogramed.

stock they are ugly

after a string of about 100 or so rounds at about 7(+/-) bps you experiance a noticable amount of drop off

the viking is great for a player that wants a tourny gun but doesnt have enough money for say a matrix or an angel or something like that...

its lacks accuracy and distance compared to the excaliber but it also lacks the extra 500 dollars.

Being used to my Matrix, the Viking has too much kick.

They have a decent trajectory and it is relativly quiet although not as quiet as say, a matrix.

the design of having the parts in sealed tubes is good, but it does limit the ability of yourself to troubleshoot.

first off, there is the break in time. Why should a marker have a break-in time. You don't see angels and Timmi's and whatnot with break-in periods

Second is the trigger. Its 3 point adjustable, right. Wrong. You have to take the freaking frame off the body to adjust it properly. I had problems with my board and had to argue with AKA for 2 weeks to get them to send me a new board.

I might buy my girlfriend this marker because she is sold on the advertising

All quotes pulled from Viking owners. And in conclusion, I would LOVE for you to substantiate your claim of the Dark Viking doing ANYTHING better than an X-mag.

[lack of grace]

Originally posted by No sKiLLz

All quotes pulled from Viking owners. And in conclusion, I would LOVE for you to substantiate your claim of the Dark Viking doing ANYTHING better than an X-mag.

I could go ahead and pull up a bunch of qoutes like you did for mags but I don't wanna waste my time when there is a whole forum in front of us all that proves that.

I have had a full ule mechanical mag, an emag and an xmag.

I have also had two vikings and a JMJ Featherlight Viking.

"ANYTHING" better than an xmag huh?

Where could we meet so I can show you? where are you from?

PRO's

a) they are lighter
b) waaaaaaaay more efficent
c) they pinch without modification
d) they triggers are far more customizable
e) they cost less
f) they have type 3 anno which is like superman anno
g) they are way easier to obtain
h) they have less kick

CON's

a) they don't look as good
b) they require a break in process

I request you explain the pro's and cons of an xmag vs. a viking.

Edit*** every automag zealot brags that there marker can cycle 40+ cps, but thing about it. who cares? do you shoot your marker without paint when you play or just to show off to yourself or friends? CPS means absolutely nothing.

[No sKiLLz]

I can't believe you just tried to tell me a Viking is lighter than an X-mag.

If you've owned an X-mag, than you SHOULD know the trigger is VERY adjustable with o-rings and magnets.

Kick? Last time I checked the X-mag has a bolt forward action.

Price? Get a job.

Pinch without modification? Last I heard the break in period was for the LPR. Better not try to sustain a high ROF out of the box without a Halo.

Superman anno won't help the looks of this marker. Wonder Woman anno won't help the looks of this marker. Naked stickers of Victoria Silvstedt...maybe.

Availability? I was mad at AGD too for making me wait, so I got a Matrix.

Speaking of which, I was never saying the X-mag was the way to go, I was talking about the Matrix. Is the Viking going to beat the Matrix on anything but price? (and don't say efficiency because people are getting just as many if not more shots than a Viking with the FF bolt)

Dark Viking is not a bad marker. I just don't agree with anyone telling me it's the best when it's nowhere near.

[lack of grace]

Originally posted by No sKiLLz
I can't believe you just tried to tell me a Viking is lighter than an X-mag.


**Yes i am.


If you've owned an X-mag, than you SHOULD know the trigger is VERY adjustable with o-rings and magnets.

**Yeah its nicely adjustable but unless you get special spacers you only have like 5-6 choices for the return pressure. Due to thickness of orings yadda yadda

Kick? Last time I checked the X-mag has a bolt forward action.

**Recoil.....sorry my bad

Price? Get a job.

**I do and get paid well.....job or not, 1400 is to much money for a peice of metal the cycles air.

Pinch without modification? Last I heard the break in period was for the LPR. Better not try to sustain a high ROF out of the box without a Halo.

**I pinch on a non broken in viking. the break in doesnt make a huge difference maybe 10psi.

Superman anno won't help the looks of this marker. Wonder Woman anno won't help the looks of this marker. Naked stickers of Victoria Silvstedt...maybe.

**Since when does looks effect performance

Availability? I was mad at AGD too for making me wait, so I got a Matrix.

**And you argument is?

Speaking of which, I was never saying the X-mag was the way to go, I was talking about the Matrix. Is the Viking going to beat the Matrix on anything but price? (and don't say efficiency because people are getting just as many if not more shots than a Viking with the FF bolt)

**I have a trauma...I know matrix's are nice. I was talking about vikings and you commented on my remark. I inturn answered you request.

Dark Viking is not a bad marker. I just don't agree with anyone telling me it's the best when it's nowhere near.

Never siad it was the best....just said it out performs the xmag.

[$tevo]

lack you have a trauma? does the viking compare to it at all?what gun would get more shots off a 68/4500 crossfire? and what one is more consistant u think?

[lack of grace]

Originally posted by $tevo
lack you have a trauma? does the viking compare to it at all?what gun would get more shots off a 68/4500 crossfire? and what one is more consistant u think?

equally consistant but more shots with a viking.

[$tevo]

ok cool..thx alot man

you know anything bout the new nerve marker? you know a site where i can read bout it or look at it?

[fire1811]

i was told that the nerve is not even close to being done
you will be waiting a long time if you want it

*dont bother asking who said it since i cant tell you

[lack of grace]

Originally posted by $tevo
ok cool..thx alot man

you know anything bout the new nerve marker? you know a site where i can read bout it or look at it?

http://pbnation.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=252

that is the only good source of info ive seen...

good luck buddy

[$tevo]

do you know who is makin it fire? what company?

[fire1811]

smart parts

[wobbles82]

Hehe, more Nerve. All I can say is that even when it comes out, Smart Parts really likes to do a nifty "wait a year before its ready to go" period, so I would say ditch that idea. Nearly every product they make (As good as it may be, im not dissing them I love their products) has some kind of QC problem at first, or the boards fry, or the tolerances or low, something that just isnt right. So, onto the earlier debate. First off that is kinda off topic...who was saying that the Viking doesnt have range or something? I cannot believe that there still is range debates! If you even read the reviews for Vikings idiots will say it shoots almost as straight as a cocker but doesnt get nearly the range...how is that possible? Anyway, I think $tevo is making a good decision with a Dark Viking, they arent really that bad looking, and as for the dropoff im not so sure about that. I think Matrices are incredible markers, and maybe he should shoot both, but IMO I would take a viking also because of weight, some Trixxies can be packing. But its really in Steves (can I call ya steve? heh) hands, both are excellent quality, and smoking fast markers and either one will leave him pleased. (Specially the one that does less wallet burn) But for the X-mag debate, sure the Viking is more efficient, but having USED and SEEN numerous Vikings I can say that their is no way to say one is better than the other. The Viking is a very consistent marker, but I do not think it can match the abilities of the X-Valves ability to actually be dead on consistent in faster firing scenarios, or even its ability to prevent chopping. I have seen Vikings with eyes break balls, I do not diss them, but it is possible, an X-Mag occurence like this is very very rare. Well I wont say much more mainly because my opinion never...really matters, lol. But I think we should stop debating the markers, all are very good, so I think price is the only thing in this debate.