JUST SAY NO!....to macroline that is!

[krazydude1230]

well i stopped reading about half way through, cuz i'm not all up with the arguing, so i'm just gonna say what i know and be done with it. first off the only times i've seen macro blow it's been on co2 and from the looks of it this might have already been covered, but i've also only seen it happen in the heat, which makes sense cuz co2 does expand and all that fun stuff, macro line is in no way the devil, but since i can't afford to run nitro i use ss cuz i've got frostbite from when my macro blew and it don't feel so good. so for all you people who use macro and love it, use macro and be happy, but if ya use co2 you might wanna have ss for backup in warm weather, cuz it don't feel good. well have fun and bunker a guy with an angel

[Benfica4ever]

I have used marco in prety hot temps. I dident see any affects. execpt all the things co2 always does



psst SUCK!

[MarkM]

Originally posted by funkmunky56
just read the posts a little farther. NO, Parker does not manufacture the line for 32 degrees. They get it from Exotic Automation. Parker's lines are ALL printed and coded, right on the hose, and they recycle any line that doesn't meet their standards by grinding it down and reextruding it.

Parker Parflex has a W.R. (working rating) of 500 psi constant, and a burst ratio of 4-1. what this means is that you can (theoretically) run it up to 2000 psi before it can burst. This is of course in lab conditions, using inert gasses. Temperature is definitely a factor in the durability of ANY material, which is why NOONE recommends using Macroline on a marker running CO2. In certain weather conditions, CO2 can spike up to 12-1500 psi, and that, combined with the stressing of the hose due to the cold generated by CO2s thermal expansion, can bust a hose out quickly. --Dave

Not meant as a flame but if those are the numbers for Parker then even if they are better than the other makes, 32 degrees etc regardless of using co2 unless you are using an adjustable reg with a LOW output setting , not the ability to set it low but ACTUALLY set low then you are over their (Parkers) figures. Preset regulators are in general high pressure 850 psi and co2 is around that pressure under normal conditions so you "shouldn't" be using ANY make of macro/microline. Just 'cos your friend and his uncle and his dog all use something and they have not had any problems doesn't make it right. To use an american phrase "Do the math" it doesn't matter what way you slice it, it still means that unless you are at or under the rating for the hose you can only use that product if you are within those numbers. If you want to go to the extremes then to take the figures on an Angel A.I.R. tank, then you must be ok to fill that tank to 6500psi ..... well that must be ok as the burst disc is rated at 7500psi.....now you all know that is a crazy thing to do but you will use a hose that is rated at 500psi and dump 850psi into it 'cos the burst rating is above that.... think a little more.

[irbodden]

I got my hand cut pretty bad when some line blew on me.

I only use ss braided now.

[FalconGuy016]

Honest to God animal mother, what IS your problem. I didnt want to come in here becausae it was just another macroline debate, but I see now that this one is a bit over the top.

IF YOU USE MACROLINE CORRECTLY IT WILL WORK

IF YOU USE MACROLINE INCORRECTLY OR YOU BUY SOMETHING CRAPPY IT WILL NOT WORK

How simple is that? Animal mother, you arent converting anyone, because, fortunatly for us, we understand it and you obviously dont. People have bad experiances, yes, but its either their fault or the macroline.

32* MACROLINE IS HALF THE THICKNESS OF GOOD MACROLINE! Do you WONDER why it blows up?


Get good macroline!
Get the benefits of macroline with good reliability!

yaarr...

[behemoth]

Re: JUST SAY NO!....to macroline that is!

Everyone is debating wether macro or micro or SS is better... IM NOT GETTING INTO THIS

Originally posted by PUDBUDZ
you should see what 700psi does to skin!...ill get the pics of that up soon as i change the bandage!

Id like to see this tho

[Animal Mother]

My whole point is Macroline is riding the edge of safety...

You have to use your hose "the right way" or else it will blow up?!?! With a Macro/Micro line you can't get it hot.. you have to watch your output pressure.. etc.. thats not real safe when compared to a SS line. You put the SS line on your gun and forget about it.

I have a scuba tank to fill my gun tanks. I knew I would always be doing this. But my paintball tanks are 4500psi tanks.. why? Because I wanted that extra measure of safety. I could have saved money with a 3000psi tank because thats all I'll ever fill my tanks to with a scuba setup. I know theses tanks can take like twice their rated pressure.. but having that extra degree of safety is never a bad idea.

What do you think your life will be like if you are badly injured by a HPA accident? Say you lose your hand.. you think it's hard getting a good woman now, wait until you factor in 1 hand.. or a your lips ripped off from an explosion? Your life will change because of one stupid mistake.. I make mistakes all the time. Which is why I stay away from macro lines because it is TOO close to the edge of safety.. SS is brainless safety. When you're at a field you're doing a million things at once. Gearing up, messin with your gun. etc.. this is one less thing to worry about. One mistake can be the rest of your life.

[FalconGuy016]

Originally posted by Animal Mother
My whole point is Macroline is riding the edge of safety...

You have to use your hose "the right way" or else it will blow up?!?! With a Macro/Micro line you can't get it hot.. you have to watch your output pressure.. etc.. thats not real safe when compared to a SS line. You put the SS line on your gun and forget about it.

I have a scuba tank to fill my gun tanks. I knew I would always be doing this. But my paintball tanks are 4500psi tanks.. why? Because I wanted that extra measure of safety. I could have saved money with a 3000psi tank because thats all I'll ever fill my tanks to with a scuba setup. I know theses tanks can take like twice their rated pressure.. but having that extra degree of safety is never a bad idea.

What do you think your life will be like if you are badly injured by a HPA accident? Say you lose your hand.. you think it's hard getting a good woman now, wait until you factor in 1 hand.. or a your lips ripped off from an explosion? Your life will change because of one stupid mistake.. I make mistakes all the time. Which is why I stay away from macro lines because it is TOO close to the edge of safety.. SS is brainless safety. When you're at a field you're doing a million things at once. Gearing up, messin with your gun. etc.. this is one less thing to worry about. One mistake can be the rest of your life.

"The right way" includes buying the right kind. That is all, there is nothing else to worry about. At all

I'd worry more about a QD failing than good macro failing, and I REALLY would like a plastic tube failing than a heavy piece of metal . I know you dont use a QD though

The tank thing... I thought I was paranoid about tanks. Filling a 4500 tank at 3000 for safety is BEYOND brainless safety... 4500 psi IS ALREADY brainless safety, considering what the tank can actually, and still safely, hold. Do you know what they do to hydro a tank? They push what seems like an ungodly amount of pressure in your tank and see if its explodes. It shouldnt, because its designed to be uber strong. If anything, you need to be worrying about your reg more than anything else, because its complex (well, moreso than a regular tank). And then, your reg has safeties on it

Unless there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with your tank, and at that point it isnt safe to have any pressure in it at all, you shouldnt underfill. If it isnt safe to fill all the way , it isnt safe to fill at all

[Animal Mother]

I use a QD, and I use one made my Airgun Designs, VERY well made, hardend steel and has more bearings that hold it in place than other QD's. That's why I paid a little extra for it. And I ALWAYS seat it correctly, people slap it on and turn on their tank.. not me. I connect it and push it down firmly and wiggle it to make sure it's seated properly. I don't have to use it during a game unless I have a problem. I also keep it well lubed so it can open and close. If it were to fail it would whip up once. I put the QD at the tank and not at the end of the hose to it can flap around if it were to fail.

I know I know.. the tanks can hold A LOT, I just don't want to overfill my tank.. so i feel better putting 3000psi in a 4500psi tank than 3000psi into a 3000psi tank.. just an extra degree of safety.. or.. I guess I just dont want to blow a burst disk so I don't have to go home early. Plus I am sure if the tank has only been filled to 3000psi that it will pass all it's hydro's for the next 15 years... hey man, my Flatline 4500 wasn't cheap! lol

[FalconGuy016]

lol I understand, and since you have your own scubas I suppose it doesnt matter. But just the idea there though, if you have ANY reason to run the tank at 3000 psi for safety, it isnt safe at all to use, and you areant gaining safety by going less psi (at this level of psi compared to the overall pressure capability of the tank). But since you have scubas, AND probably the tank will last longer, its a good idea

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Animal Mother
My whole point is Macroline is riding the edge of safety...

One mistake can be the rest of your life.

Holy over reactions Batman!!

This from someone playing a sport involving projectiles travelling at 200+ mph. How do you even manage to make it onto the field? One wrong step and it could end up changing the rest of your life?

:)

Jay.

[spydervenom]

i got hit in the arm w/ macroline when it wasn't connected to the opposite air fitting(silly me) and it hurt about the same as a paintball. i highly doubt it will cut your hand off.

maybe it'll take out your eye, but maybe a ball will break through your mask lens and to the same thing.

[krazydude1230]

*Editors Note* I'm using a rather lame, pointless and confusing analogy here to further illustrate the point that nobody is right and that i can sound like an idiot

Okey we are just gonna refer to macroline as um lets just say wool pants. now i dunno about you, but wool pants in the summer don't feel so good and it's probably not a good idea to wear them, but now i'm just rambling, so back to the point i'm not really making. in the same way, macroline and the hot summer weather just don't get alone, kinda like um hmm well i can't think of something stupid that doesn't get along. okay i thought of one now, so yeah totally going off of the wool pants thing, cuz i didn't have a point there in the first place, we are now gonna make macroline a cat, cuz it looks pretty, but in my personal oppinion aint good for much and the heat can be a dog for some reason. so yeah dogs and cats don't go well together, macroline and heat and high pressure and other such things don't go well together. hmm i forget what i was trying to say there, so i will just say, some people like cats, i don't, some people like macroline, i don't, but whatever makes ya happy is all good.

Thank you for letting me waste your time cuz that was total bs and i now feel retarded and am wondering if i'm drunk.