Qloader (innovation at IAO)

[sneakyhacker420]

IMO it should be mounted along the top of the gun... have some sort of mounting bracket to attach to the sight rail... now THATS thinking [from sneaky for once]

[Top Secret]

If they make a mount so that you can mount it offset of the tank like a warpfeed, I'll buy one in a second.

[sneakyhacker420]

i'm gonna buy one, mount it to my PGP somehow... and then loop the tube into the front or back of the 10rnd. feed tube... MORE PGP OWNAGE W00T!!

[Ov3rmind]

In the Warpig article it said they are working on some new mounts so it can go behind the grip frame or on your tank. If they get it to go on top of your tank, I'd buy one instantly. Imagine no blimp on top, and nothing bulky on the side (Warp Feed). Just use a ULE Warp bodied Mag and it would be sooooooooo compact. If it was on your tank, it really wouldn't get in the way of anything.

[kosmo]

One of my best friends used to have a TS1. That thing was sweet back in the day, so long as you took care of it. Was a bit of a pain to reload though, and it only held 80 rounds. The shroud around the barrel held more paint and dumped it into the magazine. Then they came up with the hopper adapter to make things a heck of a lot easier. The thing that killed it wasnt necessarily the electros coming out but that stupid NPPL rule about limiting ROF by forcing all tourney legal feed systems to be gravity operated, thusly killing off the TS1. The only reason the warp got by this rule was because the hose still went to the top of the gun, so the paint had to drop in. Even though its positive pressure that was enough to sqeak by the rule. I must say though, I am quite thrilled about what the Q loader is trying to do, and hope it evolves into something that could be used commonplace. I just plain hate hoppers, and a clip/tube feed system that could be reloaded with just a twist lock system or whatever would be just plain groovy.

[Jack & Coke]

From: http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tech...er/index.shtml

Hmmm... do you think it would look like this?

[cris8762]

interesting, but i'd prefer a more "warp-like" positioning, or maybe more alined along one side of the body.

if they made these pods to hold 150-200 paintballs i might consider getting one, but the thing is, i blow thru 104 balls in under 10 seconds if i'm laying cover for my front guys (this is definetly a frontman's setup for now)

[Jack & Coke]

more brainstorming...

How about on top like an oversized stock class feed tube?

Of course this presents the problem of having it bump into your mask... but I'm sure something can be worked out...

[Jack & Coke]

...or how about flipping it sround like the guys at Action Markers did with their Illusion pump...

[aaron_mag]

Just saw this on Warpig and figured you guys would be discussing it.

I think this looks great and has alot of potential. The warp feed is nice but I never was too crazy about its position or the extra battery weight. Once the most ergonomic position for this thing is found and the price comes down I might seriously think about it.

Interesting innovation. Hope more products like this come out. Darn and I just went to vertical feed!

[SIGSays]

weight and balance? wouldn't that throw balance off?

[Evil Bob]

I built a prototype helix loader for the SMG-68 back in 1992 that I used in Europe that mounted on the left side of the SMG68 parallel to the upper reciever, my design was based 100% on Calico's. I used clock springs to generate rotation, an internal raceway for the balls to follow, and a big central screw to drive the balls. It's only downfall was the last 4-5 rounds would not load as once the bulk of the balls was no longer under tension by the spring, it would no longer load, just like the last 10 or so balls in the warp.

I was unable to do much with the design so I mailed it off to Dennis Tipman in 1993, since it was designed to be used with the SMG series, which had pretty much completely vanished from paintball about the same time.

Since this type of loader does not rely on gravity (much like the AT85 series) it won't be tourny legal, but as was stated above, it may find a happy home among the scenario or rec ball crowd. Being able to fire the entire loader contents from any angle is a big plus.

-Evil Bob

Originally posted by Jack & Coke


Maybe someday, a loading system like the Calico will be available for paintball...



(not exactly like this, but you get the idea...)

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by Evil Bob


...Since this type of loader does not rely on gravity (much like the AT85 series) it won't be tourny legal...

Whooa... does this mean the Qloader is illegal for tourny?

Could someone provide a link to the ruling? thanks

Also, doesn't the AT85 feed system rely on gravity as much as the WARP? If you turn the WARP upside-down, it will only shoot a few more balls - just like the AT85.

[Evil Bob]

That's the main reason why the warp feed was allowed in major tournies, it was still dependant upon the gravity fed loader sitting on top of it.

-Evil Bob

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by Evil Bob
That's the main reason why the warp feed was allowed in major tournies, it was still dependant upon the gravity fed loader sitting on top of it.

-Evil Bob

But isn't the AT85 dependant on gravity also?

If you turn the AT85 upside-down, it will only shoot a few more balls... after the balls in the belt are gone, it will not shoot any more paint. Paint needs to fall to the bottom of the magazine in order to be snatched up into the belt system... no?