MECHANICAL ONLY TOURNAMENT: Choose your weapon!

[Timmee]

Hmm, my choice would be:

Warp Right ULE bodied 'Mag
Halo feeding a Warp Feed
X-Valve
ULE Rail
ULT
2 finger frame modified for pneumatic sear engagement


Electro feel with no marker batteries to worry about.

[Brophog]

I second Fred's vote!

[Butterfingers]

If we allow sweetspotting the mech only markers will outshine even today's fastest electros...

AGD would dominate as it has a way to control ball breakage with L-10 if the sweetspot becomes too sweet.

The RT-P is just as fast if not faster than the tippy RT

http://paintball.butters.org

[TheTramp]

Originally posted by RRfireblade
I don't think Retro=runaway or sweetspot exclusively.Reactive triggers within legal limits is not unlike lightening the pull on other markers to increase speed.I don't see a problem with it.

I was starting to get a little ticked untill I finaly saw someone post this point. RT absolutly does not = runaway trigger bounce. Most of you guys who are saying you'll "sweetspot" aren't talking about sweetspoting at all. Cranking the input up and letting the trigger run away isn't sweetspoting.

Originally posted by RRfireblade
I actually shoot faster on a classic valve,the R/T weight and reaction is not what I really like in a trigger.

I myself prefer the Retro as it allows me to shoot faster but that's just my expereance. I do think that for most people yhe RT absoultly can increase rate of fire due to the trigger returning faster. When you find the sweet spot it'll be the point when the trigger fully returns at exactly the same time/point you are ready to pull it again. However, if the harder pull really puts you off then obviously it's not for everyone.

[bryceeden]

I would use an RTpro(no sweetspotting), but I use that now against electros, so I don't think it would matter.

[maglover52]

i would take the cocker. i cant stand what agd is douing to there buisness.

[Methylphenidate]

i have to agree with the masses on this one and say the rtp

[Jack & Coke]

What if reactive triggers / sweet-spooting were NOT allowed in this fictitious ALL MECH TOURNAMENT?

Still stick with Mag?

[TheTramp]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
What if reactive triggers / sweet-spooting were NOT allowed in this fictitious ALL MECH TOURNAMENT?

Still stick with Mag?

Are you saying no reactivity at all or just the input down to the point were you CAN NOT get it to runaway?

If the first...I'd probably still go with a L10 Mag of some sort.

If the second..I'd take an RTP with 700-800psi input.

Just to be clear. All Mags (using mechanical frames/mode)have "reactivity." That's how the trigger is returned. It's just that the Retro type valves return harder than the classic.

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by nerobro
A BPS Reflex Autococker. The only cocker without a trigger spring... :-) IT used a ram and a restrictor valve. The trigger ram ran on LPR pressure, the restrictor is how you set bolt open time. the guns were disgustingly fast. And effectively full auto. And by dialing that restrictor valve you could adjust the rof. :-) HALO's would make these guns unstoppable.

nerobro,

that sounds interesting... do you have a link with more information about this special 'cocker?

Thanks

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by TheTramp


Are you saying no reactivity at all or just the input down to the point were you CAN NOT get it to runaway?

TheTramp,

sweet-spotting = simulated FA utilizing an exaggerated reactive trigger return force and a constant finger pressure on the trigger.

runaway = gun malfunctioning and firing all by itself with out any input from the user. If you disengage your finger from the trigger and the gun stops shooting, then it is not runaway.

This link will lead you to a video of a "runaway" gun:

RUN-AWAY GUN

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
What if reactive triggers / sweet-spooting were NOT allowed in this fictitious ALL MECH TOURNAMENT?

Still stick with Mag?

No reactivity at all?

Hmm,single trigger slider. Butta baby!!!

[TheTramp]

Take a look back to all the threads on this definition from the beginning of this forum. It became one of those "Do a search!" issues.

At least as far as Mags go, runaway is the gun firing without you activly pulling the trigger. ie: keeping you finger in one spot and letting the trigger bounce off it.


The point of my last post was to ask if you ment one-shot-one-pull (no runaway or what ever you want to call it) or no reactivity at all.

[GT]

my Killer Klassic... Benchmark 2x, conquest, and classic valve. I would maybe put the lvlx in to give you guys a chance. I rarely chop in lvl7...

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by TheTramp

At least as far as Mags go, runaway is the gun firing without you activly pulling the trigger. ie: keeping you finger in one spot and letting the trigger bounce off it.

Nope.That's sweetspotting..........or is it?

If you want to sound LESS illegal it's sweetspotting.If someone is doing it at YOU,it's runaway or bounce. I guess some poeple feel if you have at least SOME control,it's sweetspotting.I don't know,it all sounds about the same to me.