new military policy on paintball markers

**Professor Chaos** · 08-14-2003, 10:23 AM

Hi this is my first post here but thought i would lend my support because I had the same problem when I was in. It wasn't official policy back then but i didn't want to give anyone an excuse so i kept them at a friends house off post. Or my advice is get on really friendly terms with the unit armour so he wouldn't mind coming in on his day off to let you get your marker out.

**lopxtc** · 08-14-2003, 10:30 AM

Yeah I ran into the same problem when I was in the Marines station in Japan ...

A bunch of us had those airsoft pistols and they used to be cool about letting us have them until someone got injured. Then we had to turn them over to the armory to have them stored there.

We were actually issued normal weapon cards for each one we turned in, which I though was just funny as hell.

Eventually (being a combat enginner and access to a full wood hobby shop) we started creating places to hide them in our barracks. Almost a full year and they were never found, many of my creations even made it through CG's inspections and room tossings

I was proud of those.

It is unfortuantely one of the down sides to living in the barracks. Why dont you check out a storage room off base? Split the costs with a couple guys that play all the time with you and store the gear there. I know a basic closet size storage area is really cheap.

Aaron

**Evil Bob** · 08-14-2003, 12:44 PM

When I was in (got out december of '93) and playing paintball on a weekly basis, the rule for us was as long as there weren't any problems and we could demonstrate that we were responsible with the equipment, we could store it in the barracks rooms, the first sgt didn't have any problems with it because we didn't have any problems with the guys being responsible. The first sgt made it quite clear if there ever was a problem, those who had the problem would be seeing some serious extra duty and that their equipment would be stored in the armoury and it would be more then likely quite difficult to get to.

I ended up storing pretty much all my teams gear at my house off post due to the fact that I had alot more room for storage then they did in the barracks.

-Evil Bob

**edweird** · 08-14-2003, 02:02 PM

Back when I lived on base (several years ago) I skated the letter of this rule by storing my marker on the "weapons allowed" housing side of base in a locker at the base bowling alley. They didnt care.... and I had easy access to it. Also it sorta depends on how cool your first sergent is... I told my old shirt my problems with storing my stuff in the armory and they had a written order made that allowed me to store my equipment in my room over the weekend for maintenance and cleaning purposes. I had to keep it out of my room during the week though. And could never bring compressed air back from the feild.

Since then I have moved off base and I have a couple younger enlisted troops that store their stuff at my place just off base. They normally let me know if they intend to play that weekend by thursday and it works out fine.

But yeah I agree... I will never ever trust my stuff to the fools in the armory

**SG Avenger** · 08-14-2003, 02:45 PM

As far as I know, that is post policy here on Ft. Knox.. Is my marker in the armory? bahaha hell no. I'd just assume dig a hole and burry it, and dig it out when I need it.

**breg** · 08-14-2003, 02:51 PM

I'm in the same boat, I have to find somewhere to store my RT/Pro. Freaking base rules.

**Eagle** · 08-14-2003, 03:26 PM

That has been the rule everywhere I've been stationed (Groton and Norfolk). I tried keeping it at a friends, but that was a pain, so now I keep it 2 hours away at my mom's. Sucks, but oh well. Sure beats having it confiscated by getting cought with it.

**SomebodySomeoneRTPcf** · 08-14-2003, 03:42 PM

Those crazy rules.

**Lohman446** · 08-14-2003, 04:06 PM

Let me first say I have never been in the military, I tried and they had this problem when my vision was proven considerably less than 20/400

Does it seem odd to anyone else that the people we entrust with vital roles in keeping people alive in combat situations (or in direct combat themselves) - as well as guarding our nuclear weapons (or putting them on airplanes themselves), etc. we can't manage to trust to keep a friggin PAINTBALL MARKER in their possession? Stupid rules.

Coincidentally - I have a friend who is an airline pilot, out of the military and was qualified to fly with nuclear weapons - had to have a background check to carry a handgun on an airplane.

**SG Avenger** · 08-14-2003, 05:09 PM

Well if you've ever lived in the barracks area, you'll realise your average soldier is between 18-22 most of them have just gotten away from their parents, and act a fool all the time.

Here at Knox, there is no supervision arround the barracks, and its a consolodated area for several units in 5 different 3 storry buildings..

its chaos. I've got my paintball gun in my closet. I wouldnt trust it to the arms room, heck, I dont even trust my car in the parking lot.

**Esh** · 08-14-2003, 05:26 PM

**WarBUCKs** · 08-14-2003, 05:30 PM

I don't know what rank you are but is it possible for you to move off base. When I was an E-4, I moved out of the barracks and into my own apartment. The Gov. and all the great taxpayers out there (all of you, sniff) paid for it!!!

**Esh** · 08-14-2003, 05:51 PM

WarBUCKs, It is going to depend on barracks space and the post command. When I came back to Ft. Belvoir two years ago as a Staff Sergeant, I could not move off post because they had empty barracks space and the rooms were large enough by reg. When I came back from OEF I was forced out since they needed my room for another unit. Some post are suffering from severe room shortages so they will give Specialists the option with command aproval, some you have to be an NCO.

I personally love living off post. When you look at what my BAQ is and what that BAQ was paying for on post, any civilian wouldn't accept it.

**lamby** · 08-14-2003, 11:46 PM

I was in the Air force for 8 years and lived in the dorms for about 6 of those 8. I was at 5 bases in 3 countrys (two army posts and 3 AF bases). There was never a problem with my paintball marker, but times change. I did however have have 5 real firearms in the armory. I received a letter from my commander, and indorsed by the base/post commander at all but one location to have full access to my firearms with no more than a 1 hour notice. I was an avid hunter, and when the mood hit I wanted to go. I NEVER had a problem getting weapons from the armory, and after a while you get a good repore with the armoror (as long as you are not a knob), and can get away with some "rule bending" like having your firearms in the dorms for a short period of time, after informing the MP/SPs where and how the arm will be stored. (It must be in a locked case, and have a trigger lock or breech lock for my case)

Dorms suck, plain and simple. Too many idiots there that is why your RIGHTS to bear arms was infringed. I fought this fight with the NRA and the highest levels of AF brass to no avail. If the NRA can't win the fight, I dont think the fight can be won.

Good luck on the fight, and if possible find a reason to get out of the dorm. It is not that hard, just read all the regs and you will find a hardship. That is what I did (sleep disorder that prevented me from sleeping in a noisy dorm enviroment). Not really, but the doc gave me the pass to get BAS and BAQ.

Lamby
former E-4 USAF (2E154 TV and security systems journeyman)
current NRA life member
AO member

new military policy on paintball markers

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