what is the best gun setup for a back player (hopper, barrel, everything)

[joker4hire]

Re: IMO

Originally posted by darklord


This is the ideal setup IMO... no kick, gas efficient, consistent, fast, and quiet. Also, pretty much no chops with a properly set LPR, the ACE, and the Halo.

how many shots can you roughly get with a 68 3K?

[magmasta1234]

what gun to get

OK guys, im gonna have to go with the gen e matrix. I just love that gun. 88/45 tank, medium drop and a egg 2 hopper. (already have the hopper)

[TheTramp]

Re: what gun to get

Originally posted by magmasta1234
OK guys, im gonna have to go with the gen e matrix. I just love that gun. 88/45 tank, medium drop and a egg 2 hopper. (already have the hopper)

Just a note on the tank. I think that's a good sizae but make sure to get an 88 "stubby" not one of the long ones.

[bunkermaster10]

For the best LCD matrix thats fully pimped out check out thematrixcenter.com.

[No sKiLLz]

Re: what gun to get

Originally posted by magmasta1234
OK guys, im gonna have to go with the gen e matrix. I just love that gun. 88/45 tank, medium drop and a egg 2 hopper. (already have the hopper)

If you have a little patience, wait a few weeks for DYE to introduce their LCD Trix. Pre order is already available at paintballgateway.com. Has eye, rocket lpr & inline (not the greatest, but anything is better than centerflag) and has a little weight milled off the back for $1050. If you have extra cash, try to get the new Evolve bolt kit ([email protected]). It's the only Delrin out right now for the Matrix and has similar efficiency to the FreeFlow, and if you have a little bit MORE money to spend, get the C4 mod which is a different type of Leethal mod but works on the same principle.

I like Darklords suggestions. It's nice to see people are starting to see what the NYX is all about. I'll have vids of AO guys shooting one after the 30th. I'll even take a vid of my GF walking the trigger, and she has never fired a paintball gun in her life.

[SpongeBobSquarePants]

Originally posted by SomebodySomeoneRTPcf
I should slap you...NO 21inch anything more than 16 in ch MAX. is just slowing your paintball down but it does make it quieter.....DON'T EXCHANGE range/accuracy for sound.

No scope. No gun is sooo accurate that your scope will always be consistent ie. spikes, wind, ect. it just adds wieght.....wieght is bad

BACK PLAYERS DON"T NEED FAST HOPPERS well, more than 12v....cause if you use that much paint as a back player WILL WILL BE FILLING AND NOT LOOKING/COVERING YOUR TEAMATES.....jeez "mess with the best, DIE like the REST!"

You my friend our a idiot. Let me break down this losers post for you. "I should slap you...NO 21inch anything more than 16 in ch MAX. is just slowing your paintball down but it does make it quieter.....DON'T EXCHANGE range/accuracy for sound." IDIOT! Do you not understand sarcasm my friend? First off I would like the think that any self respecting player that has been playing the game for more the 6 months would know that anyone says a 21" barrel is a joke. Also what are you mumbleing about how quite it is? Wake up NO ONE CARES ABOUT HOW LOUD YOUR MARKER IS.

"No scope. No gun is sooo accurate that your scope will always be consistent ie. spikes, wind, ect. it just adds wieght.....wieght is bad "

You know to save my self from throwing up I'm not even gonna touch that comment.


BACK PLAYERS DON"T NEED FAST HOPPERS well, more than 12v....cause if you use that much paint as a back player WILL WILL BE FILLING AND NOT LOOKING/COVERING YOUR TEAMATES.....jeez "mess with the best, DIE like the REST!"

Wow you really are not that bright are you? Well sense in your opinion that back players dont need fast hoppers then why did they make Egg II and Halo Bs? Also I think in what you wrote up there in that fragment of a sentence says something like, "If your throwing alot of paint you want be covering your teammates." Let me get this straight if your holding your oppent down for your front guys to move thats not covering them? Oh, and to this "mess with the best, DIE like the REST!" Thats why you are a loser.


Now I will answer your questions.

BEST BACK PLAYER GEAR
Bob Long Intimidator with WAS (something with a clamshell)
Almost any type of good running matrix, I would say freeflow with eyes.

Hopper
I would say Egg II with y board alot lighter then the halo B

Tank
88/45 Stubby.

[magman007]

Still, no one ahs suggested the venerable e-mag


so i will


I would truthfully suggest a completely ULE e-mag, with
ULE body Vert
ule rail
x-valve
ule frame

then you throw a nice crossfire 88 stubb on there, with what ever drop configuration you like

then you lighten ytour trigger just ho you like it, and you go to town


the matrix is a wonderful marker, so is the timmy, the viking, the angel, and the e-mag



we are all gunna tell you different things, so decide on the one you like the best and get it

[Marek]

Originally posted by SpongeBobSquarePants
Hopper
I would say Egg II with y board alot lighter then the halo B

This has already been discussed in the past. There have been tests about this and the lightest Egg II setup w/paint is just as "heavy" as the lightest Halo B setup w/paint.

Yes, they hold different amounts of paint, and yes they feed at different rates, but the weight of the hopper should not be an issue in deciding which hopper to get. The capacity and rate of feeding should be the deciding factor.

[No sKiLLz]

Originally posted by Marek


This has already been discussed in the past. There have been tests about this and the lightest Egg II setup w/paint is just as "heavy" as the lightest Halo B setup w/paint.

Yes, they hold different amounts of paint, and yes they feed at different rates, but the weight of the hopper should not be an issue in deciding which hopper to get. The capacity and rate of feeding should be the deciding factor.

I agree, but as far as capacity goes, the Egg II and TSA Back player are almost useless till someone makes bigger pods. Even though it will take longer to empty the hopper from the whistle, you can't fill it more than 150 rounds at a time after that.

[SlipknotX556]

14in CP 1 piece
Halo B
68/4500
2k2 Timmy with WAS

[Torbo]

idk about an ideal setup...........but.....

Our backs shoot Matrix's with boomys, one with a Halo B and one with an Egg 2, both with 68/45 presets. And they lay enough paint to keep me happy, thats for sure.

[Python14]

Emag
No-rise body
16" Ultralite or Boomy
Shocktech long drop
PMI 88/45 stubby
HALO B
LX


.....or, if you really want to sling more paint than that(but not as fast)

Shocktech SFL cocker w/ Turtle cocker milling
Eblade
16" Boomy or Ultralite
Free-flow internals
Sidewinder Inline reg
Quick exhaust valves
Shocktech long drop
PMI 88/45 Stubby
HALO B or Eggy

The reason for the Turtle milling is because they use a delrin backblock, which is of course, much lighter than stock. This means the moving mass is much less and your gun will be steady. Also, the fact that SFL cockers are stupid light combined with even more lightening, makes for a gun that you could carry comfortably in one hand for hours and hours.

Now if PMI would make an 88/5000 system, back players around the world could really move some paint.

[FreakBaller12]

I should slap you...NO 21inch anything more than 16 in ch MAX. is just slowing your paintball down but it does make it quieter.....DON'T EXCHANGE range/accuracy for sound.

dude, i was joking like haha

[Ov3rmind]

Eh, even though it's all opinion, I'll put in my thoughts on the best back player guns:

Any upgraded/custom Matrix
Viking with WAS
Excalibur with WAS
E-Blade Cockers and Hybrids
Angel Speeds, IR3s, and LCDs

E-Mags are great, but back players need a gun with good efficiency. As good as an E-Mag is, there are characteristics that it lacks that backplayers find useful.

[magmasta1234]

I do like the egg 2 cus u can leave it open in the back for faster filling. It deos have a hella fast feed rate too. And personally i like the looks and how it sits back.