what is the best gun setup for a back player (hopper, barrel, everything)

[magmasta1234]

idk about an ideal setup...........but.....

Our backs shoot Matrix's with boomys, one with a Halo B and one with an Egg 2, both with 68/45 presets. And they lay enough paint to keep me happy, thats for sureidk about an ideal setup...........but.....

OK, I'm not totally sure about the tank, so what does everyone think about a 68/45 or maybe a new 68/50

[magmasta1234]

haha the top is from torbo i dunno how to do that reply thing

[boomerfoxtrot]

WOW.. there is alot of crap in here... but there is alot of "good" info too..

as far as gun, it depends on what your looking to do. You can get a Spyder base gun with elctro frame and do great in some local tournys... but if you are looking at jumping into the bigger tournys, the open tournys and such then you are going to need a much higher end gun... such as a Timmy, E-Mag, Xmag, Trix, and so on...

which ever way you go, you need a fast hopper. So you don't shoot 16bps, you shoot 10.... if you use a 12V Revy you might not have a problem, but what happens that one time you pull 12bps and the revy skips, you are then worthless b/c you just fill your barrel with paint.

This is my suggestion.. if you are running low end tournys..

Any basic gun (spyder, piranha, mag) with elctro frame, for Air ball 14-18" barrel *boomsticks shoot well, or you can get the empire kit and then you have it all*(they also cost bout the same)
tank, Nitro will be your best bet, but if you can't afford it then CO2 will work, being back you need a 20OZ.
Pack.. Any pack you like that carries more then 5 -for 3 man, and more then 7 for 5-man.
Mask is up to you..

For mid-range set up
Impulse, Bushmaster, classic timmys, Automag RTs, Emag, shocker *they are gas hoggs though, but shoot CO2 real well*
so your guns between $1,000 and $300
Barrel is the same, I highly recommend the Empire Kit.
Tanks... if you are stepping up in guns, you need to in tanks also, it's the life....

High Range...
you need a gun that can take a beating, one that can shoot fast, and not chop b/c the higher you go in the tournys, the faster everyone shoots.
Look to spend more then $1,000 on just the gun....
but your asking us this question, so I doubt your to this level yet =]

I hope I helped a bit...

good luck

[ZyperioN]

If you want a full setup for $1000:

Dark Viking un-milled-- $745
Evo-II----------------- $70
68/4500---------------- $180

Optional:
WAS Eye Kit + Covers--- ~$40

The Viking is up there with the Excal as the most efficent markers in the market. You may be able to get (depending on paint/barrel match and velocity) well over 1600 shots off a 68/45. Plus the Dark Viking comes with 03 Stickes and the Razor trigger (best viking trigger).

[Ov3rmind]

Originally posted by ZyperioN
If you want a full setup for $1000:

Dark Viking un-milled-- $745
Evo-II----------------- $70
Could you direct me to a place that sells them at this price?
68/4500---------------- $180
Again, where can I find this?

Optional:
WAS Eye Kit + Covers--- ~$40

The Viking is up there with the Excal as the most efficent markers in the market. You may be able to get (depending on paint/barrel match and velocity) well over 1600 shots off a 68/45. Plus the Dark Viking comes with 03 Stickes and the Razor trigger (best viking trigger).
Actually most Vikings can get a whole case off of a 68/45. In general they are a tincy bit mroe efficienct than Excals, but not too much.

[ZyperioN]

yeah actually your right i just checked again and it's 1400-1600 for a 45/45. I had my figures wrong, my apologies. And with the viking a new barrel isnt needed, the javelin is a great barrel in itself.

As for those prices:

Evo-II: http://store.yahoo.com/actionvillage/014-9080.html (they are $73 now, i've seen them as low as $65 there on sale)

68/4500: http://store.yahoo.com/actionvillage/031-7000.html
(again, they are $185 now, as low as $180 on sale, just have to keep your eye on for PBgear's sale emails)