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  • SyntaxError
    OSK #3
    • Sep 2001
    • 621

    #31
    Originally posted by cphilip
    And laying down cover can be effectivly done at 12 BPS...
    If you're shooting where you're supposed to be, it can be done effectivley with 5 bps, as Frank Connell shows us (Philly A's)
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    • WARPED1
      I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
      • Nov 2001
      • 7458

      #32
      Originally posted by xen_100
      its really simple........if people stop buying smart parts stuff, then they wont make any money and they will drop this. but if people just keep complaining and buying stuff from SP, it wont do any good.

      STOP BUYING SP. once they are out of business, their patents are null and void!
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      No it won't make them go out of business, becasuse all the other big companies will be paying a royalty on any electro gun. So lets say, Bob Long pays the lisencing rights for his Intimidator. So, you buy one, money goes to SP.
      So, if you boycott SP, you'll need to boycott every other company that makes an electro and has paid for rights to use the SP patent. So, I guess you only want to play mechanical(not really a bad thing mind you), you'd be ok. But if you want to play in the big leauges, where firepower and speed does matter, you can't because your boycotting SP, which technically by law will be every electro gun!


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      Last edited by cphilip; 08-23-2003, 01:50 PM.
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      • cphilip
        Former Moderator

        • Jun 2026
        • 16216

        #33
        Originally posted by SyntaxError


        If you're shooting where you're supposed to be, it can be done effectivley with 5 bps, as Frank Connell shows us (Philly A's)

        Amen Brother! I agree!


        AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

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        • cphilip
          Former Moderator

          • Jun 2026
          • 16216

          #34
          Sorry had to fix my goof on your post and return my reply here....



          ...But if you want to play in the big leauges, where firepower and speed does matter, you can't because your boycotting SP, which technically by law will be every electro gun!


          I reject that as on the whole a falsehood. Speed on foot and speed in thought count WAY more than any small degree of difference in BPS. Blaming the Marker is a cheap way out. You either got it or you don't. Many a poor player is still a poor player after purchasing a Electronic marker feeling it was going to make him better. He is not one iota better. And all he ended up was poorer in the wallet...
          Last edited by cphilip; 08-23-2003, 01:58 PM.


          AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

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          • Angry Man
            Supreme Dicator of 15Club
            • Jul 2002
            • 333

            #35
            While this is true, not-very-good players like me can REALLY be helped by a few extra BPS...if you find yourself in a position where you and someone else are shooting at each other, both with about as good a shot, accuracy and accuracy by volume are what's gonna make the biggest difference. If you're really good, however, you can shoot slow and still do very well.
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            • No sKiLLz
              NYX #16
              • Apr 2003
              • 930

              #36
              Well. There are a few months before the trial. Shouldn't we campaign against Smart Parts?
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              cphilip - ...And again I am not allowing anyone to use the "well everyone else does it and gets away with it" excuse. Get used to it. Life aint always fair and this ain't no democracy.

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              • WARPED1
                I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                • Nov 2001
                • 7458

                #37
                Originally posted by No sKiLLz
                Well. There are a few months before the trial. Shouldn't we campaign against Smart Parts?
                No. It won't make 1 bit of difference at all.
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                • IcantBelieveit
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 1339

                  #38
                  Originally posted by WARPED1
                  No. It won't make 1 bit of difference at all.
                  quite the fatalist aren't we warped? BIG stone have been turned by SMALL people. So lets be optimistic.
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                  • Angry Man
                    Supreme Dicator of 15Club
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 333

                    #39
                    Be optomistic if you want, you'll just be more dissapointed when you fail.

                    If you want to do something, you'd better hope you either have 1. tons of money and 2. training as a patent lawyer. A few people not buying smart parts stuff will make next to no difference, even if it did...SP would make less money, meaning they'd need to win the lawsuit more. But since it won't affect them one bit no one cares.
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                    • xatle
                      Tall guy, with a beard
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 100

                      #40
                      "electro ready" mech markers, as soon as you get it home you have to drop in after market electronics made by someone not involved with any maker. very quickly it would become well known that if you wanna E out your mechanical xmag you have to go purchase model xm101 water proof light switch control system and reprogram the basic stamp.
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                      • Angry Man
                        Supreme Dicator of 15Club
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 333

                        #41
                        I'm sure the average paintballer would love to custom build his own electro....oh wait, I'm not because no one would.

                        But I am sure that even if that happened (which it wouldn't) smart parts would sue in that case as well....you can't sell 1/2 of the code for adobe photoshop and then the other half seperately and say you aren't pirating software....all the code is owned by the company, not just the total complimation.
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                        • IcantBelieveit
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 1339

                          #42
                          OH YEA!
                          Last edited by IcantBelieveit; 08-24-2003, 05:14 PM.
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                          • Matt_mg
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 198

                            #43
                            Agreed the whole patent thing is stupid...

                            But honestly consider the real outcome, maybe SP will be the SOBs who got the patent but there is going some EVEN MORE smart SOB who is going to work around them in less than a month.

                            Think of this like the whole Microsoft case, they hold alot of the market but no matter how hard they enforce their copyrights apple is still around, unix is still being used and linux is developing a huge fan base (and alot of server-based versions). Microsoft is bloated no matter how much they try to change their whole system they can't gain more popularity anymore, their only solution would be to start a new OS from scratch and you know how likely this is to happen.

                            IMO SP is running straight into a wall with this patent case... Don't get me wrong I'm boycotting them too but I'm not selling my impulse, just not buying sp stuff anymore (NDZ and Evil make cooler products )
                            bla bla bla, does anyone read this anyway ?

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                            • mag-hatter
                              OOOOOOOOO-RAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1069

                              #44
                              i say we go to sp headquarters and burn it to the ground...im sick of these people. they're going to ruin the sport for butt wipe money.
                              MY PRETTY PRETTY FREEFLOW ON EBAY! GET SOME WHILE ITS HOT AND FALLING OUT OF THE COW!

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                              • thecavemankevin
                                the living un-banned
                                • Feb 2001
                                • 4346

                                #45
                                Boy, NationPS sure is going to feel stupid if this patent crap is tossed out in court.


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