NPS bows to SP

[QuestionMark?]

Smart Parts can blow me, them and their BS patent and them stomping on companies that produce guns that are so incredibly better than theres its like comparing a 12 guage shotgun to a Pop gun. I personally think that the products they make are BS and there products are fricken nazi.

Hmmmm......Smart Parts is gonna end up like the fat guy that took to many jellybeans out of the jar and ate them all, and died of starvation. It is going to be up to the paintball comunity to *****slap SP for taking to many jellybeans, i hope when it comes time when SP eats the AGD jellybean its Vomit Flavered

[Tuff]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye

I always thought Gino was Italian. Little did we know he was French!

haha

[mag-hatter]

i came up with a logo for them :P

[FSU_Paintball]

Nice.

This situation worries me more every day. And yet, there's still people who insist that SP won't do anything "immoral" and that we're jumping the gun with our assertions. It blows my mind. I'd personally like to get Tom's opinion on this.

[Pacifist_Farmer]

Eight years ago when i started playing i used a tracer pump, then a prolite semi, now an RT mag, I don't see the need for electro's, i think a better player will be found holding a mech.

of course all my angst could stem from all the twelve year olds that play once and then go get their hands on ir3's and have no concept on how to play the game.

but i agree that SP winning a patent lawsuit such as this means stagnation of the sport for twenty years, fortunatly for me i'll still be using a mech.

[Ronin 23]

You think???????

Originally posted by kenndogg
SP served Bob Long with some papers at the PSP, didn't take too long before NPS bowed down to SP. Sad thing is NPS is one of the big boys...

Seems to me like THEATRICS at its shallowest. Hummmm, let's see: could Dye/E-Gen be next?

[Ronin 23]

Amen, my brother, amen....

Originally posted by cphilip
I reject that as on the whole a falsehood. Speed on foot and speed in thought count WAY more than any small degree of difference in BPS. Blaming the Marker is a cheap way out. You either got it or you don't. Many a poor player is still a poor player after purchasing a Electronic marker feeling it was going to make him better. He is not one iota better. And all he ended up was poorer in the wallet...

It's not the Arrow, it's the Indian.....this ROF superiority thing that people keep on bring up is a prime example of "herd mentality propagated through extensive marketing" and more people than not are buying into lock, stock and barrel.

[manike]

Re: You think???????

Originally posted by Ronin 23
Seems to me like THEATRICS at its shallowest. Hummmm, let's see: could Dye/E-Gen be next?

Dye/Gen E are rumoured to have come to an agreement with SP, to the effect of not sueing each other. Based on the fact that the 03 Shocker is very much like a matrix...

There were no theatrics at PSP Philly. Bob and the Assassins were very much pissed off by being served by the Gardners just prior to playing.

[Ronin 23]

Re: Re: You think???????

Originally posted by manike
Dye/Gen E are rumoured to have come to an agreement with SP, to the effect of not sueing each other. Based on the fact that the 03 Shocker is very much like a matrix...

Wow!!!

Originally posted by manike
There were no theatrics at PSP Philly. Bob and the Assassins were very much pissed off by being served by the Gardners just prior to playing.

Nonetheless, it was certainly done for maximum effect. But are you sure that Bobby wasn't doing the 'wink-wink' as the Gardners were walking away?....lol

[Evil Bob]

If SP does in any shape actually "win" the rights to follow suit on their patent claims, would you not think that those who actually own the tournies would simply outlaw the use of electros?

Just think about the poll here that Tom posted, he mentions a hypothetical case with mech only tournies and everyone else having only mech markers. The day of the electro may have simply come and gone and ended prematurely by the greed of the Gardners and their bogus patents and quest for money and market share. Do you not think that if all the industry giants got together and voiced their outrage at SP that things would not happen with the tournament organizers themselves? We're at a crossroads here...

I for one could easily live without my electro and go back to using an RT.

-Evil Bob

[manike]

Re: Re: Re: You think???????

Originally posted by Ronin 23
Nonetheless, it was certainly done for maximum effect.

Yes for SP to get the most out of it, and for it to possibly help them in the NXL also.

Originally posted by Ronin 23
But are you sure that Bobby wasn't doing the 'wink-wink' as the Gardners were walking away?....lol

Yes VERY. Having spoken to Bob, his chief tech and others about it, I'm very certain that wasn't the case.

Evil Bob, SP own a huge part of the tournies. They are one of the partners in the PSP AND they are extremely instrumental in the Dick Clark and Hollywood part of the NXL, as well owning one of the top teams and franchises in the NXL.

You could say that without the Gardners the whole Hollywood thing wouldn't have been coming about. They have been working on and with the Hollywood people for years and were a major factor in brokering this whole deal.

The possible future because of TV might be why SP are doing what they are doing... and it might also be why some of the bigger players are not getting as angry with SP as they might otherwise...

[CobraC]

Bah, quit the SP bashing. Every company out there would do this if they had the chance. They are trying to make a living and this kind of thing has been done before, and will be done again.

[WARPED1]

[WARPED1]

Re: Re: Re: Re: You think???????

Originally posted by manike


Yes for SP to get the most out of it, and for it to possibly help them in the NXL also.



Yes VERY. Having spoken to Bob, his chief tech and others about it, I'm very certain that wasn't the case.

Evil Bob, SP own a huge part of the tournies. They are one of the partners in the PSP AND they are extremely instrumental in the Dick Clark and Hollywood part of the NXL, as well owning one of the top teams and franchises in the NXL.

You could say that without the Gardners the whole Hollywood thing wouldn't have been coming about. They have been working on and with the Hollywood people for years and were a major factor in brokering this whole deal.

The possible future because of TV might be why SP are doing what they are doing... and it might also be why some of the bigger players are not getting as angry with SP as they might otherwise...

I always new I liked manike!

Originally posted by Evil Bob
If SP does in any shape actually "win" the rights to follow suit on their patent claims, would you not think that those who actually own the tournies would simply outlaw the use of electros?

Just think about the poll here that Tom posted, he mentions a hypothetical case with mech only tournies and everyone else having only mech markers. The day of the electro may have simply come and gone and ended prematurely by the greed of the Gardners and their bogus patents and quest for money and market share. Do you not think that if all the industry giants got together and voiced their outrage at SP that things would not happen with the tournament organizers themselves? We're at a crossroads here...

I for one could easily live without my electro and go back to using an RT.

-Evil Bob

You, my friend, are an idiot.

[FSU_Paintball]

Originally posted by CobraC
Bah, quit the SP bashing. Every company out there would do this if they had the chance. They are trying to make a living and this kind of thing has been done before, and will be done again.

Right. As has been demonstrated numerous times by Worr, AGD, and countless other companies.


Oh, wait, no it hasn't.

Do a little research before saying something like that. Bud only patented the bodies of the autocockers. Tom left many of AGD's designs open to tinkering from other companies. SP is the only one who has really gone on a rampage over stuff like this, and they didn't even invent any of it in the first place.