03 shocker :(

[Steelrat]

Well, here is my take on the 03 shocker...

I went into a local store and saw it on the rack. I asked the owner about it. He replied that it was a "piece of [fecal matter]." Said it was cheaply made, with brass screws that broke the first time he took it apart. He also said it was a major gas hog.

When you walk into a paintball store, which have low margins to begin with, and the owner, who already fronted the money for the gun on the wall, tells you its a piece of crap, that just can't be good.

[Dave_Z]

I own an 03 Shocker and I must say that it is a very nice gun. Extremely light and very easy to maintain.

I don't get where people are getting the "cheaply made" comments from. My shocker is rock solid. There is nothing that gives me the impression of cheap. It may be light but there is no feeling of anything about to fall apart. All the screws are stainless steel. The trigger is awesome, very, very easy too walk and feels good.

The bolt is nothing like the matrtix bolt and is only similar because of the spool valve. The matrix is far more complicated and much more a pain too take apart than the new shocker. Although it may seem impossible, the new shocker has even less kick than a matrix.

The only problem that I have with the new shocker is efficiency and even that won't be a problem unless you play back in a ten-man. I am sure I could get 6 or 7 pods from a 4500/68 fill so it is enough for me in almost all situations.

[Quickling]

and and my wanting to take off the maxie and use a reg isnt that big of a deal apparently, as there is a black 03 on ebay with a vertical reg

[JT2002]

If yoru looking for a fast easy to shoot gun, try out a speed. i have one and the guns really rip. i also have one for sale its weird cuz i used to be really AGD Mag ho, and im still in some denial, because while i look at teh gun and go "Man this thing is sweet", the back of my brain is thinking of all the hatred over Angels. . but now, im selling to go get an angel 4. these guns reall rock, NEVER chop, sensi is a godsend, and the halo only makes things better. (if yoru interested in a speed contact me

[Marek]

Originally posted by FalconGuy016


Doesnt look like that worked

(I dont really want to leave this to PMs because I feel we BOTH have important convections that need to be shared witht the folks on AO) jb

I tried.

[spydervenom]

i dont think i could play w/ a gun that has such bad efficiency. i'd probably buy a second tank just so i could get a good amount of playing in before needing to fill my tank.

and 6-7 pods is not enough for a good amount of playing.

[Lohman446]

Here is my thoughts on the 03 shocker - keep in mind I play front so efficiency, well I frankly do not care.

The thing is tiny - like my mag in size. The thing is QUICK - I do not like electro guns anyways (still shooting a mechanical mag) but this gun was just awesome when I shot it

[Quickling]

The thing is tiny - like my mag in size. The thing is QUICK - I do not like electro guns anyways (still shooting a mechanical mag) but this gun was just awesome when I shot it

sorta my thoughts too except I shoot a single trigger slider on my cocker.

[jinxed]

Originally posted by Dave_Z

The bolt is nothing like the matrtix bolt....

This is very true.
I have seen the bolts, and have confirmed they are completely different colors. Everything is pretty much the same though.

Just because they are both functionally the same doesnt mean they perform the same.

The Stingray and 98C are functionally identical, yet 99.9% of us would choose the 98 over the Stingray.

(-Nick

[mxracer33x]

I for one love my new shocker. Ive taken it apart several times and havent broken anything. It is very tightly packed, so it would be possible to damage the wiring harnes or the on off switch. It does use alot of air, but not enough to hinder normal tourney play. Since ive gotten it I havent shot my Xmag in a game. Hopefully I can get some time and do a complete Xmag-03 Shocker review comparison. this will include video and pics.

But quite honestly, the thing rips.

[Natrix]

Well me and Dave_Z have the benefit of a 10 man team with Speeds, Xmags, Matrixs, and 03 shockers.

These shockers friggin rip, and the gas efficiency is fine unless you have a paint sponsorship and, as dave said, play back in a 10 man. The gas efficiency is basically the same as a matrix. If you don't want to fill up after shooting 6 pods and a hopper (roughly half a case), then you need to go play airsoft, because how often are you gonna shoot half a case in a game? (not including back guys)

The bolt is twice the size of an angel bolt, and half the weight. and slides over the top of a long tube....don't know of any matrixes that do that.

The weight of an new shocker with the tank and HALO is about the same as an XMAG without anything on it.

I'll just come out and say this is the best gun for ALL front players. It's so small, fast, and light it meets all the necessary critera.

Boycotting SP isn't gonna do anything except make them raise the prices and make it harder to buy a new shocker for 750, stop this madness!

[nastymag]

wait are you telling me that a 03 shocker ... with tank and Halo weighs less the 3 pounds ... wow .... i find that somewhat hard to believe....

[mxracer33x]

my Xmag weighs in at 8.2 lbs with halo (no paint) and 68/4500 maxflo (no air), 12" CP Barrel

my 03 shocker weighs in at 7.2 lbs with halo (no paint) and 68/4500 maxflo (no air), 14" All American Barrel


A full pound lighter, not to shabby.

[Marek]

Originally posted by mxracer33x
my Xmag weighs in at 8.2 lbs with halo (no paint) and 68/4500 maxflo (no air), 12" CP Barrel

my 03 shocker weighs in at 7.2 lbs with halo (no paint) and 68/4500 maxflo (no air), 14" All American Barrel


A full pound lighter, not to shabby.

A full pound lighter cuz of the CP barrel.

[No sKiLLz]

Originally posted by Dave_Z

The bolt is nothing like the matrtix bolt and is only similar because of the spool valve. The matrix is far more complicated and much more a pain too take apart than the new shocker.

***How many times have I posted this? And Shocker people are still in denial.***


Yes, guys, it's more than just a river in Egypt.

Although it may seem impossible, the new shocker has even less kick than a matrix.

***Let's see. Matrix is heavier, longer, and has an LPR, with the same spool valve, yet it kicks more than a lighter, shorter marker with NO LPR and a spool valve....must be the gnomes.***

The only problem that I have with the new shocker is efficiency and even that won't be a problem unless you play back in a ten-man. I am sure I could get 6 or 7 pods from a 4500/68 fill so it is enough for me in almost all situations.

Here's the final of the DYE Matrix. Everyone says it's dissapointing, but how much do you spend on a regular Matrix LCD without eyes or the DYE regs?

When you think about it, a normal LCD costs almost a thousand anyways. I think 50 bucks more is good for an eye and some nice regs. There is a tiny bit of milling, notice on the grip frame there is a tear drop groove and the chunk under the air channels has been milled back a few inches.