i think agd should make a lower end gun, here me out

[fcpchop]

well i no there is gunna be lots of critism but its just an idea, think about it we all know that though BE has a bad name but it makes lots and lots of money. they put there low end guns in walmart and such and make bundles, agd could make a decently good gun for like 150 or suttin, this way they could make more money, and think about it if they r gettin more money that means that they could even lower the prices on high end guns or even keep it the same it doesn't matter. but atleast thing might get done faster with more money, plus i would love an agd back up gun that doesn't cost so much. i would just like tk to c more of the money in this paintball buisness then they do since they r the best company by far opinions?

[adam shannon]

thats why BE has a bad reputation...bad guns, cheap.

[fcpchop]

ya but everyone already knows automags r good, so it isn't like they r gunna get a bad name when they also have the x mag out

[Dayspring]

a stock classic mag is $200 or so. That's about what you can pay for a Tippmann or Spyder. I'd say that the classic is VERY competitive when it comes to that market. They just aren't pushed out with the gusto that Tippmann and Kingman do.

[adam shannon]

ford has always had a good name...then things like the edsel come along and knock it down a little. joe boxer, oneil, stussy, members only, etc etc etc were brands that were sold at trendy mid/high end stores...now they are available at walmart, k-mart, and target. your brand is only as good as the continual effort you spend in turning out high quality products...start turning out junk and walmart will make shelf space for you in a heartbeat.

[Severe]

With the move away from steel to aluminum as the main metal in Automags, I wonder what the production cost on a Aluminum Classic vavled, aluminum body and possibly a polymer double trigger frame would be.

If that could be done for $200 I think that would be a good price point.

However, I don't think it's going to be possible for AGD to compete $120 e-Spyder types. But they shouldn't have to. They are completely different markers.

my humble .02

[fcpchop]

yes thoase all r goos points

[speeddemon]

Personally what I think they should do is come out with a mid electro. Classic valve, ULT, and a cheap electric grip frame. Since its a budget marker (sort of) it doesn't matter that it won't be able to shoot too fast (convinces people to buy X-valve later down the road), cap the board at 13 or so. And with the ULT it can use a small solenoid and battery in the grip frame. Go ahead and put LX on it, sell it for like 350-400 with a barrel.

Personally most things that are sold in walmart end up being labeled as cheap junk. And for them to put a marker in that price category, I doubt it will be up to AGD standards anyways.

[fcpchop]

thats a good idea also

[UltimatePaintballer]

umm idk if you know this but if your company is making really good money and has good reputaion, they usually don't lower their prices, take nike for example. one pair of jordan shoes cost five dollars to make chew on that for a while.

[GT]

Originally posted by adam shannon
ford has always had a good name...then things like the edsel come along and knock it down a little. joe boxer, oneil, stussy, members only, etc etc etc were brands that were sold at trendy mid/high end stores...now they are available at walmart, k-mart, and target. your brand is only as good as the continual effort you spend in turning out high quality products...start turning out junk and walmart will make shelf space for you in a heartbeat.

Very true but those folks are laff'n all the way to the bank.

Mongoose did that same thing when they want from making nice bikes to walmart specials.

Its all about $$$

jb

[f3rr3+]

uh, classic mag for 185? 'nuff said...

[Polish]

They sell Tippmanns at Walmart now.

[adam shannon]

Originally posted by speeddemon
Personally what I think they should do is come out with a mid electro.

there arent going to be any mid range electros anymore. why spend R/D $ on a concept that your company soon wont even be able to produce legaly.

[speeddemon]

Originally posted by adam shannon


there arent going to be any mid range electros anymore. why spend R/D $ on a concept that your company soon wont even be able to produce legaly.

Nobody knows whats going to happen, so don't even bother speculating. My opinion is that they won't win, but my opinion really doesn't change anything. If SP wins and decides to crank down on everyone, then obviously AGD won't do this. If SP loses, then I think they should.