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  • JT2002
    Registered User
    • Jun 2002
    • 1863

    #46
    i never said it was in violation at any point in time! where did you come up with that? you were the one talking about violations outside of the US, and i just used the nemesis as a knockoff made outside the US, but never said that it was illegal, just a knock off

    manike can you hint at all in pm or w/e as to whats in store for the new timmys? i already saw the empires, lookin sweet. thinking of coming back to timmys from my angel, heh my parents will love hearing this out of me. lol ive been gun whoreing a lil too much lately lol

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    • shartley
      paintball player
      • Mar 2001
      • 9169

      #47
      Originally posted by manike
      Having personally spoken to Bob and National about the Nemesis I can tell you that is an illegal knock off and not made under licence.

      Anyone found selling or dealing with them will no longer be allowed to be a distributor of National products. That's what they are doing about it and just about all they can do about it.

      I'm personally one of the people working on new intimidators to help take them to a new level where knock offs of older versions won't be as sought after by potential intimidator customers. It's one way of fighting back. There is some good stuff coming guys .

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      Thank you.
      Originally posted by JT2002
      i never said it was in violation at any point in time! where did you come up with that? you were the one talking about violations outside of the US, and i just used the nemesis as a knockoff made outside the US, but never said that it was illegal, just a knock off

      manike can you hint at all in pm or w/e as to whats in store for the new timmys? i already saw the empires, lookin sweet. thinking of coming back to timmys from my angel, heh my parents will love hearing this out of me. lol ive been gun whoreing a lil too much lately lol

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      • manike
        INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

        • Jan 2001
        • 3820

        #48
        Sorry JT2002 but I can't release info on exactly what is coming other than what has been said already. More information may well be available at World Cup.

        Just expect them to be faster, smaller, lighter... etc.
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        • JT2002
          Registered User
          • Jun 2002
          • 1863

          #49
          i just felt like adding that example of a gun, being made illegally outside of the US, yet NOTHING is being done to hand it cept banning people from national. heh this tread has too much info in it!!!!!111

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          • JT2002
            Registered User
            • Jun 2002
            • 1863

            #50
            in other words i should just sell my angel now. know
            anyone in want of a nice speed?
            sry for double post

            how much lighter could they get lol

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            • shartley
              paintball player
              • Mar 2001
              • 9169

              #51
              Originally posted by JT2002
              i just felt like adding that example of a gun, being made illegally outside of the US, yet NOTHING is being done to hand it cept banning people from national. heh this tread has too much info in it!!!!!111
              Sorry, you just contradicted yourself... but oh well....

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              • freek133
                Because I can
                • Dec 2001
                • 366

                #52
                I gotta question,

                Manike said that anyone selling the nemesis will be no longer able to sell any nps product, what about people advertising the nemesis?

                In one of the more recent issues of Pb2x, the nemesis was advertised, could the same penalties apply for people advertising (promoting in a way?) the nemesis?


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                • JT2002
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 1863

                  #53
                  Originally posted by shartley

                  Sorry, you just contradicted yourself... but oh well....
                  well now that we know it is in fact illegal, i just thought id use that term, since we now know for sure, and its not speculation. so as for contradicting myself? no not really. i only said "i never said it was illegal" because i too didnt know if it was illegal or not

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                  • manike
                    INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                    • Jan 2001
                    • 3820

                    #54
                    Originally posted by JT2002
                    in other words i should just sell my angel now. know
                    anyone in want of a nice speed?
                    sry for double post

                    how much lighter could they get lol
                    Up to you . I will just say that the new 2K4 is going to be the lightest and smallest timmy yet.
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                    • manike
                      INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                      • Jan 2001
                      • 3820

                      #55
                      Originally posted by freek133
                      Manike said that anyone selling the nemesis will be no longer able to sell any nps product, what about people advertising the nemesis?

                      In one of the more recent issues of Pb2x, the nemesis was advertised, could the same penalties apply for people advertising (promoting in a way?) the nemesis?
                      hhmm very interesting point. I'm going to have to check my sources on that.

                      I know it was advertised in facefull. Didn't know it had been advertised in PB2X. That sounds strange to me... not something I would have expected to see happening... considering who owns PB2X...
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                      • JT2002
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 1863

                        #56
                        and compared to a speed? cmon manike make me wanna jump the gun now! lol. anyone who wants a speed, hit me up

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                        • manike
                          INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                          • Jan 2001
                          • 3820

                          #57
                          Originally posted by JT2002

                          well now that we know it is in fact illegal, i just thought id use that term, since we now know for sure, and its not speculation. so as for contradicting myself? no not really. i only said "i never said it was illegal" because i too didnt know if it was illegal or not
                          The term illegal is a bit broad and maybe not the best descriptive term to be used here. They are doing nothing inherently illegal in making and selling the Nemesis as far as I am aware currently (although considering all the patents currently being banded about, that may not be strictly true... since I don't know if they have a licence from SP etc).

                          However it is not a licenced or approved copy of the timmy as far as I am aware either. I used the term illgal knock off to mean that they didn't have permission to make it. It may be illegal under trade dress and passing off laws, but not sure about that. It's not something I have dealt with very much.
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                          • freek133
                            Because I can
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 366

                            #58
                            oh, oh, whoops... very sorry about that, yes it was a facefull that was advertising the nemesis... I have waaaay too many magazines.

                            Sorry again for the slip up,
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                            • manike
                              INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                              • Jan 2001
                              • 3820

                              #59
                              Originally posted by freek133
                              oh, oh, whoops... very sorry about that, yes it was a facefull that was advertising the nemesis... I have waaaay too many magazines.

                              Sorry again for the slip up,
                              OK That's a very different issue.
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                              • JT2002
                                Registered User
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 1863

                                #60
                                manike, can you tell any bit of a time frame when we will be seeing whta these new timmys look like? as i dont want to sell my angel and miss a tourny or 2 because i was waiting for a timmy

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