What happenes to WDP if smart parts shuts them down?

[manike]

I'm not a good person to ask about release dates. I just help design/make some of the stuff. Someone else does the rest .

I believe the Empire gun will be available at and just after World Cup, Nov 1st is official intended release for it.

2K4 will probably make a debut at World Cup, but I don't know if they will be on sale then.

[JT2002]

heh, damn. wonder what it looks like. so manike what do u do that gets you in contact wiht bob and all these ppl, and gets you empire timmys b4 release and such? j/w

and also manike, are they putting the new reg housings on hte empires? looks liek the old ones in all teh pics empire has on the site

[manike]

Err... doesn't this give it away a bit

Originally posted by manike
I just help design/make some of the stuff.

I've done CAD modelling and CNC coding on some of the new timmy stuff.

2K4 looks VERY sharp and futuristic. I think some are gonna love it, and some are gonna hate it. (That's life!) It's very striking. I didn't design the 2K4 body, but I did help with a new grip frame to match it and which has some nice touches I think. I'm rather looking forward to seeing a finished one myself.

NOTE to Heat, sorry for such a huge thread jacking. I hope your concerns got answered.

Empire's will have new reg housing and front LPR. All current pics of the Empire have the new reg housing but old front LPR due to the prototypes not being finished in time.

[JT2002]

yes same here sorry, just really interested in the new timmys. now if manike only owned one like the empire, or had a release date

[manike]

Originally posted by JT2002
now if manike only owned one like the empire,

What you mean like this prototype one in my hand?

Production gun will be quite different to the prototype 2K4 I have right now. Sorry no more info or pictures available.

[JT2002]

omg manike your killing me. im gonnna have to meet up with u at BIG GAME 2004 in LI, heard u were there earlier this year, didnt find u. im gonna hop on jet blue right now and come kik me some brit a$$ ! . lol i hate you manike. hopefully ill win the 150 million mega millions tonight and buy out bob long

[Ripper machinist]

2k4

Me and manike been working really close on the new grip for the 2k4. After cutting one and holding it. I love it more and more.

As for 2k4 stuff, Me and neil from bobs shop tested the gun with the ballistics tester. With a stock hammer in a new ram sleeve and the new reg. We where getting 65 psi cocking pressure with 165 psi ball pressure to shoot 290 fps. With neil on trigger he was spraying balls like no tomorrow. I think he did a average of 15 bps with a standard deviation of 3. Basicaly we where seeing awesome consistancy of fps at high rate of fire. With near 0 drop off at peak bps. So the regs where holding steady at high end, the ram sleeve was more efficient. And the new ram cap was helping push the hammer consistant at high feed.

But I cant share pictures till after world cup 8)

Jim

[JT2002]

can u email em to me day of world cup? any idea on pricing?

[magsRus]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Mabe this way my LCD will actually be worth something...

...LOL yeah same with my Dark LCD

[bornl33t]

Originally posted by manike
NOTE to Heat, sorry for such a huge thread jacking. I hope your concerns got answered.

np mate, I accomplished what I wanted with the thread. I wanted ppl to talk about SP and what the future of paintball is going to look like. I had no intension of responding to anything that's happend till now. Just wanted to see the reaction. But just for the record I think you and me are on the same page. And the rest... is just cool to read.

[Tuff]

Originally posted by Webmaster
This is all kinda silly.

NO WAY will WDP pull out of the US market. It would be like McDonalds not selling hamburgers anymore!

I agree. While SP is really screwing up the flow of the market and making changes that will last years to come, they aren't going to eventually just shut every company down like some people seem to think.

[jwren00]

Shartley-

You argue more than anyone else on AO. I'm tired of reading all of your posts. I feel like i find you in every single thread i read, trying to prove your point.

I see that you started posting on this thread at 7 in the morning, and continued your non-stop posting throughout the entire day. Do you do anything besides piss off AO'ers? SETTLE DOWN.

[kenndogg]

Shartley, I would like to thank you for ruining this thread. You single handedly turned this into some technical mumbo jumbo crap. The truth of the matter is nobody cares; stop trying to prove your point and make others feel insuperior. I WANT to hear the "what ifs" and the "rumors" not your mindless ramblings. Lets keep this thread entertaining not boring.

[manike]

Re: 2k4

Originally posted by Ripper machinist
Me and manike been working really close on the new grip for the 2k4. After cutting one and holding it. I love it more and more.

Woot! Can't wait to see it in person also.

Originally posted by Ripper machinist
As for 2k4 stuff, Me and neil from bobs shop tested the gun with the ballistics tester. With a stock hammer in a new ram sleeve and the new reg. We where getting 65 psi cocking pressure with 165 psi ball pressure to shoot 290 fps. With neil on trigger he was spraying balls like no tomorrow. I think he did a average of 15 bps with a standard deviation of 3. Basicaly we where seeing awesome consistancy of fps at high rate of fire. With near 0 drop off at peak bps. So the regs where holding steady at high end, the ram sleeve was more efficient. And the new ram cap was helping push the hammer consistant at high feed.

Told ya more good stuff was coming!

Can't wait to try out all the lovely new goodness at World Cup. If allowed I'll get pictures at World Cup for everyone else.

Bob seems to think I am quite quick on the trigger (he likes me giving demo's) and with my Empire gun I have hit a consistant 18bps (usually I pull about 17 with it). I can't wait to see if with all the new stuff, and my sound Halo B, I can break the magical 20bps in semi! I'm thinking it might be possible...

p.s. Guys I think the Shartley issue has been done to death now.

P.P.S. I spoke to John Rice (Technical Director at WDP) a couple of weeks ago and he said they will fight to the end if required. So I seriously doubt they would ever pull out on sales from the USA.

[JT2002]

so manike know anyone who wants to buy a speed?