Help me win argument

[InexactMelissa]

It sounds like the guys on the other team offered you a ride - well how is the rest of your team getting there? I can't imagine that you are going to fit both teams and all their gear in one or two cars, right? If that was the plan, then it's definately not safe.

I moved to the city a few years ago where it was impractical to bring my car, so I know how bad it sucks to be at the mercy of others for a ride, but it's better to be safe than sorry. I'm 34, live 800 miles away from my mom, and I wouldn't get in a car with guys I don't know that well.

[Bolter]

Dude go with what your Mom (we say Mum but hey) says. She ultimately knows best. Listen are you gonna wait till theres a knife at yo throat b4 you say "damn my mom was right"?? There are some bad folk out there and at 15 you may or may not be a good judge of character like she may be. In anycase at 15 you ain't gonna be able to do sh*t against someone who really wants your wallett/a$$/sneakers.

Be safe dude.

[shartley]

[judster]

dont want to sound like a broken record, but your mom is right. it is very hard for a parent to let their child go somewhere, where they dont know the people or they have never been. i have a 16yr old player on my team. im order for him to go to an out of state scenario games, i give his mother every bit of information i have. from the itenarry of events, to my address, driver license number, ss number, my parents name and number. most of all i make sure his mom has evry resource to get ahold of me. i even have her write a note authorizing me or my wife to allow medical treatment if need be. having 2 young children of my own i know if they are going somewhere i want all the info i can get on teh person/place before i even think about leting them go. it sucks for the children, but in the world we live in, i would rather have a pissed off kid then a dead/missing one. if these guys are your teammates they need to get to know your mom. talk to her about being a team mom, not only does it ease her worrieing but it also keeps you safe. just my thoughts....

[f3rr3+]

there will be 2 per car and this is just concerning my teams transportation (6 of us including me) 3 = 16-17 2 = 19, 23

[f3rr3+]

oh and its not strangers ive been playing with these guys for quite awhile now... i hang out with them @ the shop all of the time... the guy i would be riding with doesnt drink period... she has seen all of them before... my dad doesnt care my mom does.... if ya need any more info tell me

EDIT: yes i have ridden with them before to local burger king and ****... they ARE good drivers but i dont want to relay that information to my mom and risk further problems.

[spock]

make her go with you

[nippinout]

When I was 16, my parents were very super protective about my friends and me doing any driving. But they saw how responsible my friends and I were with driving, and that we took it pretty seriously. They even let me drive from Chicago to Madison by myself when I was 17. Looking back, I don't know why they let me!!!

There's something called foot-in-the-door or something like that. Basically, you start with baby steps and eventually huge freaking leaps can happen. But it all starts with baby steps.

Ask your mom if you guys can drive to the movies. Drive to McD for lunch and then to the library to study (she won't believe that one though). Stoopid simple stuff. Soon enough, you'll be going to practices!

[~WarpedRT#2~]

Just say youll walk, and get a ride from them down the street. I agree with your mom, but I also agree with doing what you want to do. She cant stop you from smoking pot, or drinking, or whatever. I think she needs to learn this now. When parents arent around, kids do what they want anyway. My advise, go around her, and make sure you dont get caught! In the end, she needs to learn she cant stop you. If you let this continue, she will try to control your life even when your 20, trust me, I know.

[spock]

Originally posted by robertjuric
WHAT??? I just went back and reread that, I thought he meant he was getting a ride w/ strangers. But his own team??? Yall are saying he doesnt know anything about his teammates? If you cant trust your teammates who can you trust?? Im have to disagree with everyone here, he should be able to ride with his own teammates.

That is crazy man. All I can say do what my mom makes me do. Invite them all over one day and intoduce them to your mom. Kinda gay but thats the only way I ever get to do stuff. Or introduce your mom to them all at the field(better idea than my 1st ). Thats about all I can think of.

I don't know, half of the ballers I know smoke a lot of weed, even in the morning before practice. If it was a ride to church, I'd say she's crazy. But she apparently understands paintball more than you think

[shartley]

Originally posted by ~WarpedRT#2~
Just say youll walk, and get a ride from them down the street. I agree with your mom, but I also agree with doing what you want to do. She cant stop you from soking pot, or drinking, or whatever. I think she needs to learn this now. When parents arent around, kids do what they want anyway. My advise, go around her. IN the end, she needs to learn she cant stop you./ If you let this continue, she will try to control your life even when your 20, trust me, I know.

[~WarpedRT#2~]

Ok, were not talking about a moral problem here. Yeah, I know alot of players that smoke weed too, but still, its wrong to say that that is wrong. It's a question of nationality. The United States and several other countries don't allow weed because they can't tax it. Thats why it's illegal. I'm not saying it's right though either. I also don't smoke it, because I like a clear head when playing. To tell you the truth, paintball is the reason I don't (and my girlfriend) but I like my mental state. I dont feel it needs altered (alcohol has no place either). But you really cant call it wrong to smoke it. Many other countries feel it's perfectly fine to.

Anyway, I'll stick by what I said earlier. I think parents are too protective. The people here dont know what kind of a neighborhood, or area you live in. Around here, there really isnt any danger of being kidnapped, or whatever, so I wouldnt have to worry. But around your place, I dont know. Parents dont want to let go until you have to literally pry their fingers out of your life with a crow bar. Tell her it's time you start making decisions like an adult, so you can learn to make the right ones yourself. Parents just dont know when to let go. I know my mom always said that when I start acting like an adult, she will treat me like one. It's by saying that, that I dont want to. I think if you treat your kids like one, they will learn to act accordingly.

[Fastkid]

I'm 16, and I don't drive... but my parents WANT me to get rides from my friends, because its easier for them. They trust that I can judge the character of people by now.

I'm getting my license very soon though... wheeeeee

[~WarpedRT#2~]

My household this, and my household that... You need to learn that your kids WILL do what ever they want, when they want. You think they are going to school? I know I, or quite a few other kids who could/did skip alot. Their parents didn't know any better. Its time to put more trust in them, and less iron grip on their lives. Now that my parents have let up, they trust me now. I find that letting them down, is worse than any kind of punishment they could offer. When I was a kid, sure I was affraid of being spanked, and whatever, but I also knew they couldnt kill me, and that is what made me continue to do what ever I wanted. I may not have done so much while they were around, but when they were gone, it was MY RULES. Your kids are the same, and they will never admit it.

I just got done being a kid,(in age, never in spirit)and I know that my parents put a death lock on me. I'm not saying dont get info on where they will be, or whatever, but still, dont nag, and dont constantly ask questions. Just ask where they are going, what they will be doing, and tell them to have a good time. I would say that offerning consequences is a good thing, just tell them, that if you catch them, or you find that they are drinking/smoking blah blah blah, that they will be in trouble. Let them make the right decision.

[shartley]

Originally posted by ~WarpedRT#2~
My household this, and my household that... You need to learn that your kids WILL do what ever they want, when they want. You think they are going to school? I know I, or quite a few other kids who could/did skip alot. Their parents didn't know any better. Its time to put more trust in them, and less iron grip on their lives. Now that my parents have let up, they trust me now. I find that letting them down, is worse than any kind of punishment they could offer. When I was a kid, sure I was affraid of being spanked, and whatever, but I also knew they couldnt kill me, and that is what made me continue to do what ever I wanted. I may not have done so much while they were around, but when they were gone, it was MY RULES. Your kids are the same, and they will never admit it.

I just got done being a kid,(in age, never in spirit)and I know that my parents put a death lock on me. I'm not saying dont get info on where they will be, or whatever, but still, dont nag, and dont constantly ask questions. Just ask where they are going, what they will be doing, and tell them to have a good time. I would say that offerning consequences is a good thing, just tell them, that if you catch them, or you find that they are drinking/smoking blah blah blah, that they will be in trouble. Let them make the right decision.