speedball --- dont like it

[Clare]

*Note to self, erase all wood ball evidence*

too late, I've already made flyers with that pic and have distributed them across the nation




and to contribute to this thread: I'm all about speedball. I'm not going to go into why I think it's "better" than woodsball. It's all a matter of preference. Just play the game, no need for petty comparisons.

[JEDI]

Originally posted by CaPoEiRa


too late, I've already made flyers with that pic and have distributed them across the nation

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hitech]

Although there have been more than a few petty comments in this thread, we can still have a civil "debate" on what different types of paintball game are (can't we? ). I believe I kept mine civil. Any of you "speedballers" disagree with what I said?

Debate is good. petty name calling isn't. I know many of you are up for a good debate. Besides, it's kinda slow in here lately.

[Wc Keep]

sorry jedi had to do it.

thees one more but there is a sexy rt pro in it so we wont post it.

[InZaneFlea]

i play speedball in my Camo and don't care...heh...The thing is, guns have to be made differently for the two. As in, you won't be using a Flatline in speedball, unless well...you're a back player...But still. I think speedball is a good PRACTICE, using obstacles for cover and the such, but towns and forest courses are easily the best. Especially Armageddon at www.challengepark.com...That is so insane...-.-

[*ArKfEaR*]

Originally posted by rikkter


considering most woods fields, people make bunkers in them. i've yet to see a single woods field that is PURELY woods. i've also yet to see where natural barriers were in the way at all times. when they are, you move, and shoot from a different angle

and bunkers.

no, i dont see the point.
its luck if you sit there and shoot. you get.. closer, to be able to make the shot. of course you know that, but if you think a PLACE where you play paintball determines whether or not if you hit someone is luck or not. ok..
shooting up in the air at someone thats about 200 feet away, is luck. we know that paintball doesn't have the distance in the woods, plus the tree lims, so we can't do those long balls, thus we get closer. it makes it harder. yes. its all luck?
if anything, you have to do more work to get those shots

and stating that woods ball is all luck and you only have twigs and brushs to hide behind, and that its 'luck' isn't?
i dare you to go playing a scenario, a nice long 24hour one, if you think woods ball is still luck after that, your missing something

Your obviously don't read well, or just didn't understand me clearly.

...Im only assuming that because you aren't grasping the view of woods ball, but in comparison to speedball. Im talking about REAL woods ball though. Obviously in friggin woods ball theres bunkers, I never said there wasn't. Just there is plenty of brush, twigs, tree branches, etc. etc. etc. Something is at all times in your path of fire. You try to defend the fact that it isnt luck but the odds are there and are common sense so im not even going to get into that. I played scenarios, personally I think they are really gay (no other word I can think for it); As they just are too cheesey for me. 24-hours... sounds like fun . I still like woodsball, but with me personally I only can play so much till the point where I get boored. Honestly, I shoot way, WAY more paint in woods than on speedball. Reguardless of whether you want to deny the fact that there is not natural brush in the way of your firing path to ruin the path of your balls, but there is no doubt its not there.

Anyway, like I said I like woodsball, but I get more of an adrenaline rush from speedball, sup'air, hyperball etc. But if im in a chill mode, I'll always be up for a good woodsball game. Just like with alot of stuff with paintball, or anything in general, its user-choice.

If you like it, that's good for you, if you don't whatever floats your boat.

[rikkter]

Originally posted by *ArKfEaR*


Your obviously don't read well, or just didn't understand me clearly.

...Im only assuming that because you aren't grasping the view of woods ball, but in comparison to speedball. Im talking about REAL woods ball though. Obviously in friggin woods ball theres bunkers, I never said there wasn't. Just there is plenty of brush, twigs, tree branches, etc. etc. etc. Something is at all times in your path of fire. You try to defend the fact that it isnt luck but the odds are there and are common sense so im not even going to get into that. I played scenarios, personally I think they are really gay (no other word I can think for it); As they just are too cheesey for me. 24-hours... sounds like fun . I still like woodsball, but with me personally I only can play so much till the point where I get boored. Honestly, I shoot way, WAY more paint in woods than on speedball. Reguardless of whether you want to deny the fact that there is not natural brush in the way of your firing path to ruin the path of your balls, but there is no doubt its not there.

Anyway, like I said I like woodsball, but I get more of an adrenaline rush from speedball, sup'air, hyperball etc. But if im in a chill mode, I'll always be up for a good woodsball game. Just like with alot of stuff with paintball, or anything in general, its user-choice.

If you like it, that's good for you, if you don't whatever floats your boat.

i understood you perfectly, i never said you DID say any of that. you just made it sound like it was ALL woods balls.
i dont know anyone that plays REAL woods ball as you say without some sort of bunkers
yes. things are in your lane of fire, so you move to where there isn't. there is plenty of open spaces in fields, and thats common sense also
i do see however, where you'd think woodsball would get boring afterawhile. for me tho, it doesn't, its paintball,
speedball is a very fast pace game, and it does give me that adrenaline rush. but theres just that thing where you sneak around and jsut shoot someone from behind, then realize you sneaked into the middle of two groups. it makes it more interesting than speedball to me.
i do like both of the concepts tho.
my whole point was that woods isn't luck, if you hit a twig, mvoe or try to shoot in a different angle or position

[Zimbo]

Speedball is the home of spray and pray you point your barrel at there area and just pop pop pop as many balls as possible. And since not all of us are pros the speedball games we tend to play in at walk ons are full of spoiled kids with $600+ guns that they just walk spray and pray all game. In the woods kids like that get out so fast because there team shoots them for being to loud. In the woods the OGs come out to play and are on equal terms your equipment matters less your BPS matters less. Nowadays its all about the fastest guns. In those woods a person with a SMG-60 could own a guy with an Angel4 or an Xmag if hes quite. Makes it equal for everyone and atleast I find my adrenaline pumping more in the woods when i see a Nme walking at me sneaking and creaping as i line up my shot and hopes he doesnt see me. It feels alot better to 1 hit someone with your matte black not to shiny rental than to unload 3 hoppers of paint at someones direction with your shiny chrome loudass marker. Some people have quite dull guns for speedball but still its all spray and pray when you break it down. You practice moves and plays and manuevers in speedball and thats just wrong. You play it checkers. You wait for a spot to open to you can pull Flank #3 or Manuever #2 that you guys practice all the time. In the woods you have no idea whats coming at you from where or who. Before a speedball game you'll know who play front who plays mid who palys back and that they all are wearing the same jerseys. Looking good is half of speedball the other half is SPRAYING and PRAYING.

::end rant::

[xadamx]

It sounds like you have something against bright colored jerseys and spending more money to play. I will have to agree with almost everybody on here, speedball is a team sport. If you don't communicate, you're screwed. If you don't execute correctly, you're screwed. The list goes on and on. I still play woodsball sometimes, just for fun(because I do happen to enjoy lighting up the rednecks that make fun of my tourni gear, even though it is almost all black. They think that because they are wearing 20 bucks worth of camo from the Army surplus store they are a Marine sniper and will dominate all. I love proving them wrong) and will move for 10 minutes without seeing anybody and all of a sudden you notice some guy hiding behind a tree that doesn't notice you and you shoot him. Woo. Speedball is the evolution of the sport. While woodsball will probably always be around the number of people playing regularly is constatly droping. You can be one of the few and the proud I suppose. I think that the reason most people perfer speedball is because humans are competative in nature. People love to compete and love to win. People also love being in your face, talking smack, and for some reason feeling like they are about to explode from a mixture of adreniline(sp), sprinting, ripping away on their guns, and seeing the look of pure disapointment on their opponents face right after they just got whooped. Speedball has all of these things that people love so much. Games are in your face, fast paced, you get to see first hand your opponents shame. It is simply great. Playing woodsball on a 3 acre plot of land is long, drawn out, slow, and by the time you find your way back to the staging area your opponents have already had the time to recompose themselves. Speedball is simply more fun, especially for the age of the average paintball. Young, cocky kids want to get out their and rip things to hell, not lay around in the leaves.

xadamx <3 speedball

[iownamag]

I just want to say that who ever thinks it is easy to hit someone on a speedball field plays against bad people because a good enemy won't make it so easy. In speedball you have to use skills such as playing tight and snap shooting which requires good aim. In rec ball you sit there lobing paint through bushes that a guy is lying down in.

And for Zimbo, of spraying and praying and looking good are the two parts of speedball, where do that parts you mentioned about making and practicing plays (which make it much more like a sport than pretending your in a war and crawling around in shrubs ) fit in?

[Zimbo]

Than i guess the game will be failling apart. Cocky kids yelling i nailed yo ***! just because his parents bought him that angel he was whining about. Sure its fast paced but so is woodsball if you play with more than 4 people on a 3 acre plot. Anyone can play woodsball and its cheaper. If you want to be good at it it requires more common sense than paint. you can go out there with a hopper and finish without needing to refill. Accuracy by volume is not evolution its just stupidity. If you want to pull a manuever when you see an opening and youve been practing that specific manuever all month go play checkers. If you want to run sprint jump and be cocky join the track team im sure theyd love to have you. If you want to play with the people that brought the game to the public and with the people that grew up when paintball was growing up you go hide in the woods. Granted at some point someone left the woods because they couldnt take the boring waiting and silence. But than again this is the ADD/Baby boomer offspring generation so i guess you have an excuse to not want to lie around for the kill and just spray and pray all damn day with that *** marker youre parents bought you because you have the attention span of a fruit fly.

once you can hold your focus for more than 20 minutes ill see you in the woods

[hitech]

Originally posted by xadamx
I...will move for 10 minutes without seeing anybody and all of a sudden you notice some guy hiding behind a tree that doesn't notice you and you shoot him...Playing woodsball on a 3 acre plot of land is long, drawn out, slow, and by the time you find your way back to the staging area your opponents have already had the time to recompose themselves.

This seems common among those who do not like woodsball. If that were the way it was played I would have to agree. However, that's not what I am use to. The woods ball games I am use to are a target rich environment that has a lot more room to maneuver.

[iownamag]

When I play 3 or 5 man speedball I rarely have to refill my hopper, and can't think of a time I've used more than one pod and in a game with like 8 or more people I might use a pod more often but not much more than that. And if I was playing a recball game with 8 or more people in it I would use just as much paint. Not to mention that in a game where say it is 4 on 4 on just 2 acres, that means 1/4 of an acre for each person to be crawling in so either it is gonna be slow paced, or your trying to be a "paintball sniper" which does not exist.

And you actually made a very good point. Patient people do enjoy woodsball much more, and in all seriousness even though I don't think its related I do have ADHD, and I enjoy 3 man speedball because within like a minute or less the game is over, you shot like half your hopper or maybe your whole hopper off and you just pour another pod in and start up with a whole new game. As I said I don't think that is related to my ADHD because in rec ball you can find stuff to shoot at plenty quick if you want to, I guess its just not my bag... baby.

[trxtr]

speedball

OLDSKOOL is so dead on. Speedball is and was all about the benjamin$$$. nothing else. granted, it forced technology to catch up to the mag thats been cycling 20+ bps for over a decade, but the "thrill of the hunt" has been replaced by glitz and glam. everyone wants to be rocky or play for the assassins and have jerseys that match their guns. WHY? cause APG told them too, that's why. it's sad, but i'm not listenin' to any of that. i'm gonna dedicate my life to keeping the real spirit of paintball alive.

thanx
trxtr

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[Zimbo]

Originally posted by iownamag
And for Zimbo, of spraying and praying and looking good are the two parts of speedball, where do that parts you mentioned about making and practicing plays (which make it much more like a sport than pretending your in a war and crawling around in shrubs ) fit in?

Paintball isnt a sport. if you want to create and practice plays go play checkers. Play the game the way it was intended.

Originally posted by hitech
This seems common among those who do not like woodsball. If that were the way it was played I would have to agree. However, that's not what I am use to. The woods ball games I am use to are a target rich environment that has a lot more room to maneuver.

this guy knows how its done. stealth and surpise are alot harder to work on than getting low and well (this is funny) SNaP shooting

**note**


Spray N Pray