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  • mark_426
    I kill Halos...
    • May 2003
    • 1040

    #1

    What should I go for next on my cocker...

    What should I get next..

    I have a stock 2k2 cocker with kapp 3 way and rhino lpr... its got a freak with tag tip....
    what bolts internals etc are worth looking at? what really makes a difference?


    I dont want to dish out the cash for the eblade/worrblade/raceframe.
    '04 Rollout Viking - Gloss black, loaded
    Roundbody AKA Merlin - Gloss red, Race/Ace - Freeflow
    AKA Merlin - Gloss black, Race - Palmer
    Black/white Acid VSC Phantom

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  • Major Ho
    Long time no see
    • Jun 2001
    • 1262

    #2
    Do you really wanna spend money on new internals. The difference isnt really noticable.
    How do you like your trigger though? Im fairly partial to DYE's single trigger swing. A new frame may make your cocker feel like a whole new gun.
    But if you are set on internals, Freeflow has a whole internal kit for $99. Includes everything inside other than the valve jam nut.

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    • mark_426
      I kill Halos...
      • May 2003
      • 1040

      #3
      i want to make it more efficent.. i just said internals etc to get the idea that i dont want to spend big bucks to mill or anno it. i dont have a problem how it feels, i can rip on it if i get the adrenaline going..
      its got a wgp hinge
      '04 Rollout Viking - Gloss black, loaded
      Roundbody AKA Merlin - Gloss red, Race/Ace - Freeflow
      AKA Merlin - Gloss black, Race - Palmer
      Black/white Acid VSC Phantom

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      • Ov3rmind
        Speechless
        • Nov 2001
        • 2637

        #4
        Honestly, the best thing you can do for efficiency is to buy a Freeflow Tungsten Hammer. The only other upgrade I could see as beneficial right now would be a better inline reg like a Sidewinder. Later on down the road maybe a delrin bolt of some sort, it makes the cycling feel a little smoother.
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        • paint magnet
          Member # 10,261
          • Dec 2001
          • 2488

          #5
          For effeciency-
          new valve, reg, hammer, springs, ram

          I'd reccomend a total Freeflow kit as well, it will reduce your cocking pressure in addition to improving effeciency. After that I'd get a new reg (Stabilizer, Gladiator, Sidewinder, Angel Minireg) , ram (Freeflow, Evolution, KAPP, Shocktech), and bolt (Shocktech Supa Fly, JAM Anti-Pinch, Freeflow)
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          • lew
            tres cool
            • Mar 2003
            • 311

            #6
            I wouldn't reccomend the Tungsten hammer. Tungsten is denser and stronger than aluminum. This means that it will wear away the body. It is easier to replace a hammer than to replace a body.
            I use a Shocktech Phat Hammer and it is great. A heavier hammer is not necessary for efficiency, but in combination with a lighter mainspring, it will lower the gun's cocking pressure which would allow it to pinch paint instead of chopping it in case of a misfeed.
            If you are going for efficiency, you will need a spring kit. I suggest the Maddman Spring Kit.
            The stock valve is fine and is one of the better valves out there. The Free Flow valve is just a stainless steel copy of the stock valve. If stainless is what you want, get an Orracle valve, it's cheaper.
            The stock inline reg is very reliable and it is not necessary to upgrade it. The only problem is that it is difficult to adjust.
            For a bolt, get either a Compulsive Edge, AKA Lightning, or Jackal Hi-Speed Bolt. They are all really close in performance and are all high-flowing, which is necessary for efficiency.
            "AGD (Always Gun'em Down)"

            68 Classic Automag
            Custom-built Apex Mini Cocker
            Black Magic Autococker

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            • Zimbo
              Registered User
              • Oct 2003
              • 86

              #7
              Belsales frontend Orracle delron bolt is really nice to.

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              • lew
                tres cool
                • Mar 2003
                • 311

                #8
                The front end will not effect efficiency, although Belsales would be an excellent choice.
                "AGD (Always Gun'em Down)"

                68 Classic Automag
                Custom-built Apex Mini Cocker
                Black Magic Autococker

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                • mark_426
                  I kill Halos...
                  • May 2003
                  • 1040

                  #9
                  how much would this stuff run me...
                  '04 Rollout Viking - Gloss black, loaded
                  Roundbody AKA Merlin - Gloss red, Race/Ace - Freeflow
                  AKA Merlin - Gloss black, Race - Palmer
                  Black/white Acid VSC Phantom

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                  • Zimbo
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 86

                    #10
                    the Orracle Delron bolt is like 20 - 25 bucks. SUPER LIGHT super smooth and im pretty sure it lowers the operating pressure of the gun. i think. dont quote me

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                    • 1stdeadeye
                      Still around????
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 8501

                      #11
                      Re: What should I go for next on my cocker...

                      Originally posted by mark_426
                      What should I get next..

                      A decent sales price so you can buy a Mag!

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                      • mark_426
                        I kill Halos...
                        • May 2003
                        • 1040

                        #12
                        been there done that..
                        '04 Rollout Viking - Gloss black, loaded
                        Roundbody AKA Merlin - Gloss red, Race/Ace - Freeflow
                        AKA Merlin - Gloss black, Race - Palmer
                        Black/white Acid VSC Phantom

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                        • PaInTbAlLeR476
                          Rockin' the Cocker
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 512

                          #13
                          Im happy w/ my setup, i have all stock internals, a FGP LPR buller 3 way and tuned properly i get over a case out of a 90/4500 psi tank.
                          Rockin' the Cocker.



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                          • ~WarpedRT#2~
                            TwiztidSerialkillerJuggal o
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 603

                            #14
                            How about you sell your guns, and get an Angel? That was your plan, what happened? No bites?
                            Formerly ~WarpedRT~



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                            • phx_backstabber
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 9

                              #15
                              I would go with belsales internals over the freeflow just my opinion and what i run.

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