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  • cockermongol
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 227

    #16
    u don't need new internals. don't follow the hype, internals are internals. especially hammers... they are all just a heavy piece of metal, the only difference between hammers is the weight of the hammer, and in sweet spotting you have to get a heavier valve spring to compensate for the heavier hammer, nullifying the value of the hammer. from valve to valve I have never seen an increase in efficiency from a stock autococker valve. wgp has been making cockers for a long time, and they really have the design of the valve down. changes to the design only restrict airflow. if you compare a stock valve and a freeflow valve they are pretty much identical.

    if you want to lower your cocking pressure, then a lighter bolt (all delrin), smooth ram (sto is nice for mech cockers), and light mainspring coupled with a light valve spring (maddmann kit is great) are your best ways of achieving it. These things will run you about $75 and you will notice a much greater difference than if you spent the same amount of money and got all new internals. (By the way, the bolt really isn't necessary because most bolts run so smooth the weight doesn't generally matter on a mech gun where the fastest you'll go is about 10 BPS with a good trigger finger).

    I personally am a big fan of the WGP Hinge + STO 3-way combo. STO 3-ways are pretty cheap on ebay when you can find them, and are my personal favorites.

    Oh and if you have the money, buy a nice new inline reg, like the sidewinder. A sidewinder will greatly improve consistency over the chrono. With your new springs and a new inline reg, consistency and efficency will be much better (when the reg is sweet spotted).

    Good luck with your cocker and remember: don't buy the hype! (I learned this the hard way)

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    • FalconGuy016
      Divine Right, Pevs @ AG
      • Aug 2002
      • 6127

      #17
      Originally posted by ~WarpedRT#2~
      How about you sell your guns, and get an Angel? That was your plan, what happened? No bites?
      What about a brand new in box Speed for $840? :)
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      • mark_426
        I kill Halos...
        • May 2003
        • 1040

        #18
        Originally posted by ~WarpedRT#2~
        How about you sell your guns, and get an Angel? That was your plan, what happened? No bites?
        never found one...still looking though... and if falconguy wanted to trade the cocker and mag for it i'd be happy to do so...
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        • CrazyLad

          #19
          maybe someone already said this i didnt read through it all but i say get a new reg for it.

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          • Indi86
            Registered User
            • Sep 2003
            • 133

            #20
            where do you get the tag tip for the freak. I assume you mean theangelguy, in which case I can't find it on the site.
            Cocker Power!

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            • Jeremizzle
              >_<
              • Oct 2003
              • 309

              #21
              Um..how bout give it to me?

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              • Torbo
                teamless
                • Apr 2003
                • 1737

                #22
                what i would do is: Sto ram, orracle bolt, then new inline reg. Oh and a new trigger for that frame, but i guess thats personal preference. Ive got a flame trigger in mine, and its amazing.
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                • ~WarpedRT#2~
                  TwiztidSerialkillerJuggal o
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 603

                  #23
                  Come on Falconguy, trade him!!!! Trade him!
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