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  • ah137
    Registered User
    • Nov 2000
    • 569

    #76
    darn your lazy, it only moving three plugs, and software...to do it right at least. I don't know if I would trust pulsing. But go ahead and try it. It will also drain your battery faster to.

    ~Hills
    NVE-mag
    Certified Airgun Tech.


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    • Miscue
      Super Moderator

      • Oct 2000
      • 7105

      #77
      No it won't... the sitution where you pulse the solenoid is rare to begin with... and powering it for a fraction of a millisecond is negligible draw.

      It's not laziness... it's less to change... taking into consideration that this is intended for other guns... not just mine.

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      • AGD
        The man from AGD

        • Oct 2000
        • 5916

        #78
        I just saw a version of Miscues sofware and it looks pretty cool. In general I am only worried about the shorter dwell time on the solenoid. If the sear comes up and the bolt rides the sear closed it chews up the bolt.
        Looks pretty cool though!

        AGD
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        • Miscue
          Super Moderator

          • Oct 2000
          • 7105

          #79
          Yay! Thanks for response. I'm worried about that too... I just had it set to 20 arbitrarily... out of curiousity. I think I will set it to 30 simply because this has been demonstrated to work fine... and I'm thinking that what battery is saved isn't really important... although a nice thought.

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          • ah137
            Registered User
            • Nov 2000
            • 569

            #80
            Originally posted by Miscue
            No it won't... the sitution where you pulse the solenoid is rare to begin with... and powering it for a fraction of a millisecond is negligible draw.

            It's not laziness... it's less to change... taking into consideration that this is intended for other guns... not just mine.
            NVE-mag
            Certified Airgun Tech.


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            • Aliens-8-MyDad
              i think im a cool guy...

              • Oct 2001
              • 2244

              #81
              what if you had little bars that rose as your rate of fire rose? like u start shooting and depending on what bps you are at the bars rise... kinda like a shot feature to let u know u are shooting ... im sure none of u understand but here is a little illustration that may help.

              edit, attaching files still doesnt work.
              My Wonderful Feedback

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              • Miscue
                Super Moderator

                • Oct 2000
                • 7105

                #82
                Originally posted by ah137
                ???

                During normal operation, the solenoid is actuated at the same time that the warp is sent a pulse... as they share the same signal. The purpose of sending a pulse w/o firing it is to prime the warp when a ball is not present... attempting to get the warp to feed a ball in. You only need to do this for a fraction of a millisecond because the warp's circuit board should be able to detect pulses that only last some x number of nanoseconds... and the warp board will spin the wheel for whatever amount of time that its jumpers are set to. Also, a very short pulse will not move the solenoid at all... and draw no extra power worth mentioning. You consolidate your input/output lines, and nothing needs to be changed on the board itself... by using this method of pulsing. I do not 'distrust' this pulsing method, because I know it works w/o having to rely on faith.

                So... this priming only happens when a trigger is pulled with no ball in breech... not a common occurance.

                Strangely... if I do not add anymore stuff... I have enough memory to add the lowercase alphabet as well.

                So yes... the speculation that there was not room for a large character set was inaccurate. I wrote it in assembly, instead of using a compiler... which I believe allowed me to pack in everything really tightly and make use of every last byte of memory that I could. My current program (unfinished) is smaller than 3.0... I'll probably pack it to the brim eventually. If I don't with features, then an expanded character set.

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                • WarBUCKs

                  #83
                  These are more for fun and really not that serious:

                  Can the eye report on the LED that a ball is in the breech ready to be fired? (I don't know if the current software does this or if your software does.)

                  or

                  Say, I shoot faster(which I don't) than my hopper can feed cuz I am using one of those "non-revvy" type loaders. Is it possible to count the "non-fired" trigger pulls in a seperate counter. I am guessing this would have to relate to the eye not recognizing a ball in the breech, but the board still recognizing that the trigger was pulled. Basically a skipped shot counter.

                  Reasoning for this one: I always here people complaining that they are shooting soooo fast that they complain about skipped shots. I just say "Whatever you say buddy." AO people don't complain, but then we could say, "Look, my Mag don't skip shots." ha!

                  These could be useless in the purpose department, but hey, just some ideas cuz you still have 21% left to go!!

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                  • Miscue
                    Super Moderator

                    • Oct 2000
                    • 7105

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Aliens-8-MyDad
                    what if you had little bars that rose as your rate of fire rose? like u start shooting and depending on what bps you are at the bars rise... kinda like a shot feature to let u know u are shooting ... im sure none of u understand but here is a little illustration that may help.

                    edit, attaching files still doesnt work.
                    That's an interesting thought... like a sound level meter, except for your bps.

                    I think the bps meter how it is... is sufficient - There's some other things I want to put in first, before I start making current features bigger. I wish the chip had 4k instead of 2... then there would be a room for extra creativity. Difficult to make a Swiss Army knife with only ~800 instructions...

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                    • Miscue
                      Super Moderator

                      • Oct 2000
                      • 7105

                      #85
                      Originally posted by WarBUCKs
                      These are more for fun and really not that serious:

                      Can the eye report on the LED that a ball is in the breech ready to be fired? (I don't know if the current software does this or if your software does.)

                      or

                      Say, I shoot faster(which I don't) than my hopper can feed cuz I am using one of those "non-revvy" type loaders. Is it possible to count the "non-fired" trigger pulls in a seperate counter. I am guessing this would have to relate to the eye not recognizing a ball in the breech, but the board still recognizing that the trigger was pulled. Basically a skipped shot counter.

                      Reasoning for this one: I always here people complaining that they are shooting soooo fast that they complain about skipped shots. I just say "Whatever you say buddy." AO people don't complain, but then we could say, "Look, my Mag don't skip shots." ha!

                      These could be useless in the purpose department, but hey, just some ideas cuz you still have 21% left to go!!
                      Ha, well it's down to about 19% now... I forgot what I added. I don't really want to put in a shot counter, let alone a missed shot counter!

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                      • purplemag
                        Triple F
                        • May 2003
                        • 253

                        #86
                        what about a really really useful IR transmitter so I can IM my buddies while playing. Oh wait, I think I heard of a way slower gun that already did that. An angel from above told me!

                        Purely Purple ULE Retro mag
                        LX Inside (No chops since 2002)
                        SP Max flo 88/45
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                        • JT2002
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 1863

                          #87
                          Thanks for your helpful and usefull thoughts and contribution to this thread!!!!

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                          • purplemag
                            Triple F
                            • May 2003
                            • 253

                            #88
                            Thank you for making someone feel small and stupid for just trying to add some comic insight. Miscue knows I am serious about the software. Anyway...what about the elustrious full auto for demo purposes? With a disclaimer to use at own discretion or something to that effect? I guess AGD would not buy off on that at all.

                            Purely Purple ULE Retro mag
                            LX Inside (No chops since 2002)
                            SP Max flo 88/45
                            My Paintball Pics

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                            • JT2002
                              Registered User
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 1863

                              #89
                              Originally posted by purplemag
                              Thank you for making someone feel small and stupid for just trying to add some comic insight. .
                              i only said that for fun, and cuz i own an angel (although its getting traded this week for a guy, offerd me his trix wiht bolt kit, pbc, gun 20 chip, new desinz breech, high/ low rise, and 300 bux )

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                              • Miscue
                                Super Moderator

                                • Oct 2000
                                • 7105

                                #90
                                "Thank you for making someone feel small and stupid for just trying to add some comic insight. Miscue knows I am serious about the software. Anyway...what about the elustrious full auto for demo purposes? With a disclaimer to use at own discretion or something to that effect? I guess AGD would not buy off on that at all."
                                Eh, don't worry about it... I don't think anyone is being serious...

                                I'm not going to put in burst/FA modes... just semi. You can effortlessly shoot plenty fast with semi anyway. "Demo-purposes" only is like putting a don't pirate software disclaimer on Kazaa.

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