AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
Count me in Tom! Right at your side!! I have 3 fresh bags of Polar Ice! Purchased from Tunaman on Nov. 17th. These are dry shell so this could be interesting!! I will start today and get back with info!
HERES MY RESULTS, TEST DAY #4
AO Research Team Paintball Test for Humidity
Start of test
AO nickname - UDTSEAL
Manufacturer of paint- RPS
Name of paint (Blaze, Advantage etc)- Polar Ice (winter fill)
How many weeks old is this paint? - 1 week 5 days
Is this dry paint? - YES
Date- 11/29/01
Time- 4:16pm Easter Standard
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
-2,2,3,1,2,1,1,10,6,1
Bounce average - 2.9
Comments- WOW! Brittle paint! I cant explain the 10 and 6 bouncers. I did the test exactly how tom said in tech tip #4. No wonder I would break one occasionally at Top Gun. At least it is pretty consistently brittle! haha
After 3 DAYS in humidor
Date-12-02-01
Time- 5:20pm
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 2,5,2,3,5,1,1,10,4,5
Bounce average - 3.8 !!!
Comments- Sorry for not updating sooner, I have been so busy. But, this bounce test is on the 4th day. I completely forgot bout the bag, college sucks. Sorry tom, but maybe it can still be useful, I sure hope so. The bag has been sealed for 3 days straight and the numbers were greatly improved! Well, I think so anyway. I think you are on to something there Dr. Kaye! hehe!
AO nickname - I-luv-my-rt & Ityl
Manufacturer of paint- Reaper Paintballs
Name of paint (Blaze, Advantage etc)- Reaper White/White
How many weeks old is this paint? - 3-4
Is this dry paint? - NO
Date- 11/29/01
Time- 5:57(eastern)
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 10,10,7,5,1,11,1,6,18,1
Bounce average - 6.4
Comments- This paint has a very watery fill. Small bore(size) I realized that if you hold the paint in your hand it will affect the paints bounce dramatically. I took a ball from my hand and it bounce 35 times. So far very inconsistent paint.
After one day in humidor
Date-11/30/01
Time- 6:30
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 10,12,11,15,17,13,8 and the other 3 i lost count
Bounce average - 12.4
Comments- This paint got harder causing very high bounce numbers. Good? We'll see when i play this weekend with it.
After two days in humidor
Date-12/2/01
Time- 10:15 am
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
-
Bounce average - Wouldnt Break!!!!
Comments- I skipped yesterday so that i could post what the paint was like before i went out and practiced. Well when me team arrived i bought a half case of Diablo Blaze b/c i knew 1 case with my new e-mag wouldnt be enough. Well i started with the Blaze and had no breaks all day. Then i switched to this Reaper and the non-humidified paint wouldnt shoot. I noticed that this paint grew from about a .684 to a good .686. Without using the humidor to adjust my paint i was unable to shoot it. This is a major improvement and am glad to have come apon this. The only problem is, is that i had alot of bounces that day. This wasnt very unsual but still not good. Maybe less time in the humidor would have fixed that.
Thanks AGD!!!
AO nickname - 845
Manufacturer of paint- PMI
Name of paint (Blaze, Advantage etc)- Premium black/red white fill
How many weeks old is this paint? - 4
Is this dry paint? - y if your are referring to the kind without oily feeling shell
Date- 11/29/2001
Time- 6:35
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 8,8,6,1,10+,5,3,3,4,2
Bounce average - 5.3
Comments- Damnn this stuff isnt going to break easily, one bounced up and hit me in the head before i caught it, tastes funny but strangely satisfying
After one day in humidor
Date- 11/30
Time- 6:46pm
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 3 2 6 41 16 8 2 2 1 2
Bounce average - 8.3
Comments- Strange numbers?? Dog ate one
After two days in humidor
Date- 11/1
Time- 6:46 pm
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 15.1.4.14.1.1.13.19.2.7
Bounce average - 7.7
Wow....I started it this evening...I hope I added enough water to the Humidifier...it is JUST wet enough to form a paste. I will post results in 3 days. I also think there ought to be an official Results post for the paint testing, so Tom won't have to sift through posts to get the info. So far, something I have all ready noticed...and something that might surprise paintball manufacturers....so far, all the paint has proved very inconsistant...my PMI was extremely incosistant with a High/Low of 13/0
This is going to be incredible when its over...thanks Tom for asking for our help and getting us involved. When Sunday rolls around I'll have a ton of info for you.
AO nickname - X-Plosive
Manufacturer of paint - RPS/PMI
Name of paint - PMI premium, blue/orange shell, orange fill
How many weeks old is this paint? - purchased 11-12-01
Is this dry paint? - Yes
Date - 11-29-01
Time - 7:05pm
Bounce test results - 4,6,2,2,10,10,1,6,1,1 average 4.3
Comments- The bouncing was very inconsisten but what do you expect from 2 and a half week old paint. The paint was still hard and didn't deform even when you pressed on it.
AO nickname - Dude
Manufacturer of paint- 32 Degrees
Name of paint (Blaze, Advantage etc)- Team Colors
How many weeks old is this paint? - one
Is this dry paint? - no
Date- 11/29/01
Time- 6:41 pm
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 7,3,2,3,4,10,3,9,2,1
Bounce average - 4.4
Comments-
These paintballs were curiosly inconsistent in their bounces needed to burst open numbers
After one day in humidor
Date-
Time-
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
-
Bounce average - 4.5
Comments-
After two days in humidor
Date-
Time-
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
-
Bounce average -
AO nickname - BarryTolar
Manufacturer of paint- Diablo (Sheridan)
Name of paint (Blaze, Advantage etc)- Sheridan Visible Impact
How many weeks old is this paint? - Bought new tonight (How long it's been on Walmart's shelf is anyones guess)
Is this dry paint? - y/n Well It's not oily
Date- 11/29/2001
Time- 7:30
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
4-1-1-1-1-2-2-1-4-4
Bounce average - 2
Comments- It's Walmart paint but somebodys gotta test it - anyway it's about the only thing that will fit my Armson old barrel so
After one day in humidor
Date-11/30/2001
Time- 7:30PM
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
6-3-4-1-11-1-2-11-2-8
Bounce average - 4.625
Comments-
After two days in humidor
Date-12/1/2001
Time-7:30PM
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
2-10-2-4-6-5-2-6-7-8
Bounce average - 5
Comments-
Manufacturer of paint- RPS
Name of paint (Blaze, Advantage etc)- Big Ball
How many weeks old is this paint? - Bought 2-3 weeks ago
Is this dry paint? - y/n Well It's not oily
Date- 11/29/2001
Time- 7:30
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
1-2-4-2-6-2-2-2-1-3
Bounce average - 2.25
Comments-
After one day in humidor
Date-11/30/2001
Time- 7:30PM
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
1-1-11-2-2-1-3-4-8-3
Bounce average - 3
Comments-
After two days in humidor
Date-12/1/2001
Time-7:30PM
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
1-2-3-1-8-8-6-7-4-12
Bounce average - 4.375
This is absoulutely great! I am really excited! You have all posted your first results and we have a nice spread in the bounce numbers. I would like you to edit your posts as the next data comes in so we have everyones data on the same post ok?
We need about 40 tests for statistically significant data so lets get a few more on board!!
tom, i work for a company that makes environmental simulation test chambers. www.envirotronics.com and i know that there is a company a couple of blocks from you that have test chambers. dont think what im saying is that what your doing is not right im just letting you know that there is alot of ways of doing this. dont you think that the temperature makes a paintball change also?
dont the paintball companys have testing like this?
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haha i know what tom is up to! Get the patent out on this AGD, this is something that will be needed by every player but will be very cheap to make and help the sport greatly. If AGD doesn't make it, i'm going to make it and get the patent then go to diablo and RPS and all them. Ok i'm done sounding like a fool, here's what i think you're up to
Ok go look in a bag of beef jerkey. There is the 'liquid crystals' (you know, the things you always wanted to eat when u were a kid cause u didn't know what was in the magic package in your beef jerkey that says "Do NOT eat") that 'preserve the freshness'. Now go look in say, a new pair of leather shoes. In the box, there is the same sort of thing, to preserve the freshness. Its in a lot of things, just small cloth bags that have the liquid crysals in them, coat pockets even have them! Now, think if in each bag of paintballs, there was one of these seals. Your beef jerkey stays fresher because its in an airtight back, then when u open it it has the flavor saver, and its all in a ziplock back. Now, in each of your bag's of paintballs, there is one of these. This makes getting the shipment of paintballs from the factory to the store to your garage much less of a worry, then your paint will still be 'fresh', even a month later when you finally hit the field. Think about how much of an impact this could have...... first off major profit to the inventor, but this would make paint a lot cheaper in the long run IMO
You are talking about desiccant. It's a drying agent in a small package. It's not a "freshness keeping device", it keeps stuff from geting humid in sealed areas. You want beef jerkey to be dry. You want your coat pocket to be dry. Dehydrating paint is not the answer.
AO nickname - Russ
Manufacturer of paint- RPS
Name of paint - Polar Ice > Green
How many weeks old is this paint? - arrived @ the Store on 11-28, purchased 11-30
Is this dry paint? - Yes, advantage shell
Date - 11-30-01
Time - 6:00pm
Bounce test results individual numbers...
6,26,3,13,2,23,2,21,1,6
Bounce average - 10.3
Comments - $60/2000. Does anyone make a good, consistent paint?
After one day in humidor
Date - 12-01-01
Time - 6:00pm
Bounce test results individual numbers...
2,1,22,2,5,1,22,14,5,10
Bounce average - 8.4
Comments - I won't be buying Polar Ice again!
After two days in humidor
Date - 12-02-01
Time - 6:20pm
Bounce test results individual numbers...
10,4,7,40+,1,1,10,17,11,2
Bounce average - 7
Comments - I didn't average in the 40+, and I didn't feel like testing it any further!
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