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[deweasel697]

AO Research Team Paintball Test for Humidity

Start of test

AO nickname - deweasel697
Manufacturer of paint- Kick'n
Name of paint (Blaze, Advantage etc)- Kick'n Premium
How many weeks old is this paint? - Bought 12-1-01
Is this dry paint? - n

Date- 12-1-01
Time- 8:30
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 12, 5, 8, 6, 13, 2, 4, 1, 5, 10
Bounce average - 6.6
Comments- Inconsistant breaks



After one day in humidor
Date- 12-2-01
Time- 9:40
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 3, 5, 4, 4, 5, 2, 7, 4, 7, 4
Bounce average - 4.1
Comments- The ball breaks were much more consistant. I did notice that when the ball broke it wouldn't break as large as yesterday, sometimes the ball would just crack and drip a very small amount of paint out.


After two days in humidor
Date- 12-3-01
Time- 9:48
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 4,2,4,1,4,5,7,9,2,3
Bounce average - 4.1


Comments- Same average as previous. Still noticed that the paint didn't break very well.

[Russ]

Up, let's keep this on the front page. :)

[MajorDamage]

Sorry I can't do the test yet, I had to use my paint to play Saturday SORRY! I have let Tom down! Now you must unleash the porposes and reindeer upon me to sentence me to me demise of kickboxing these fiends! Or just forgive me and give me some cash to show that I am forgiven, either way .

ENDO!

[hitech]

Just a quick update. I have three different brands of paint and will be starting the test tonight.

[AGD]

Guys,

We only have about 9 tests that have reported back with the second days data. To make this a good test no one can argue about we need about 40 tests. Minimum would be 20 so lets get some stuff going here!

AGD

[the JoKeR]

Paint Storage

On a somewhat related topic, I have found that keeping my paint in a humidified enviornment during winter months here in Wisconsin helps keep my paint more usable. A 50:50 mix of distilled water and propelene glycol poured over floral foam (exactly the same as my cigar humidor) helps keep it all fresh. Paintballs in my humidor you ask? My La Gloria Cubanas' would never allow it! A 48 quart Coleman cooler gives me room for a couple cases of paint, AND it helps minimize temperature swings (it's insulated).
Sorry, Tom, but I can't swing the actual experiment as requested at this time, though. Just wanted to give some food for thought to those of us who get to enjoy paintball in the snow!
By the way, better luck next time at Paintball Sam's scenario game! I had to go with old age and trechory (Harry) in that game!

[hitech]

Test with three different types of paint

AO Research Team Paintball Test for Humidity

Note: I am assuming that you only count the bounces in the bounce test. That you do not count the drop that the paint broke on.
Times are when the paint was removed from the humidor.

Start of test - 12/3/2001

AO nickname - Hitech
Manufacturer of paint - RPS
Name of paint - Advantage PMI
How many weeks old is this paint? - Approx. 2 weeks
Is this dry paint? - ??? (The shell is different)

Date- 12/3/2001
Time- 21:43
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 2, 4, 0, 0, 0, 7, 0, 0, 2, 6
Bounce average - 1.75

Comments - Interesting numbers since we had NO problems with this paint. No one had any problems. We have also just used some for shooting "pratice" with no problems. This paint is great.



After one day in humidor
Date- 12/4/2001
Time- 21:39
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 16, 0, 0, 5, 6, 8, 0, 0, 1, 0
Bounce average - 2.5

Comments-


After two days in humidor
Date- 12/5/2001
Time- 22:23
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 4, 4, 2, 1, 5, 6, 5, 3, 2, 0
Bounce average - 3.25


Comments-


AO Research Team Paintball Test for Humidity

Start of test 12/3/2001

AO nickname - Hitech
Manufacturer of paint - Nelson
Name of paint - Anarchy Tournment Formula
How many weeks old is this paint? - Approx. 2 weeks
Is this dry paint? - No

Date- 12/3/2001
Time - 21:44
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 2, 9, 8, 0, 0, 6, 1, 7, 2, 3
Bounce average - 3.625

Comments- Again, no problems with this paint at the field.



After one day in humidor
Date- 12/4/2001
Time- 21:40
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 8, 5, 3, 8, 0, 10, 2, 7, 2, 8
Bounce average - 5.375

Comments-


After two days in humidor
Date- 12/5/2001
Time- 22:24
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 6, 7, 12, 25, 0, 4, 2, 4, 40+, 7
Bounce average - 8.375

Comments- I quit after 40 bounces. Since the paint seemed fairly consistent I did one extra ball. Here are the numbers replacing the 40+ with the extra ball.

- 6, 7, 12, 25, 0, 4, 2, 4, 5, 7
Bounce average - 5.875

AO Research Team Paintball Test for Humidity

Start of test 12/3/2001

AO nickname - Hitech
Manufacturer of paint - ???
Name of paint - Pro Ball
How many weeks old is this paint? - Approx. 4 weeks
Is this dry paint? - No

Date- 12/3/2001
Time- 21:45
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 0, 3, 4, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 4, 6
Bounce average - 1.75

Comments - Again, no problems with this paint at the field.



After one day in humidor
Date- 12/4/2001
Time- 21:41
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 5, 1, 1, 0, 7, 4, 7, 4, 0, 5
Bounce average - 3.375

Comments- Most of the paint now has a dimple.


After two days in humidor
Date- 12/5
Time- 22:25
Bounce test results individual numbers 1-10
- 10, 28, 14, 2, 15, 3, 5, 10, 2, 25
Bounce average - 10.5


Comments- Still dimpled.

[magmonkey]

i have some very stale very bad paint at a friends house i'll get it tommorrow and start the expiriment

[hitech]

Come on guys....

It's time to give something back. It's time to help Tom out. The entire test should only take you an hour spread out over three days. Let's run some more tests!

[Temo Vryce]

Tom you are one of the few people that I know that do thier best work at night. It must be the peace and quiet and the proximity of the moon. Man I hope this works out for ya Tom. If shows what I think you're hoping it shows. We are going to be able to get the paintball manufactures to make us the kind of paint we want to play with. Now if you can only get all of them to Ban red Fill and not just a few.

[edweird]

OK I know im jumping in to the middle of this but...

1. I know you droped the silical pack idea because it was all wrong ...But most humidors use a clay pack that retains moisture at 70ish for almost a month barring excessive enviromental interfereance.

2. This kick *** finally we can see the true in consistancys in paint. Yes i know that it really matters were on the ball the impact occurs(seam or no seam), but this is a great study that I really wish that I could assist you guys in. But im exilled in korea for a year with no paint to be had.

3. I am amazed that there are so many cigar smokers in paintball.... hrrm advertizing in cigar mags hrrrm.... and most of you have good taste; fuente and the sort. Heck I might just bring out one of my opus x sticks down to the field when I get back stateside on mid tour.

4. Thank you all for doing this I hope that we can pass this along and get some higher quality paint or at least learn something from this all. Heck agd might actually get intrested in this and find themselves in the "quality" paint business. And maybe they can drive them brass eagle bastages back to k mart were they belong.

damn the man save the empire
Ed Ostling

[hitech]

Lets put this back on the front page.

[AGD]

Guys,

Thanks to all who participated but this is not enough for a statistical sample. I said more in this thread but on second thought edited it because I didn't want to say something I would regret later. The simple fact is we need more tests, when we get 20 data sets here I'll be glad to spend the time to crunch the numbers.


AGD

[Riot[Z-Grip]]

Too Late???????

I seriously seem to have missed this thread before, is it too late to do the experiment and post data? I'll start right now (1:38AM)! Sorry Tom and all those who have already participated in the experiment, I'll get my act together now if it's not too late.

-Riot

[AGD]

It's not too late! Data tastes good all the time.

AGD