AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
air effeciency is going to make my head explode...
Originally posted by lew A properly tuned and setup Cocker can 2200 shots from a 68/45. AKA guns are definately efficient.
I don't believe this for one minute - Ethan from the "Free Flow" company (I think Pro Paintball) started this myth. No one I know has EVER been able to reproduce it, including (from what I hear) him - even after multiple challanges. Even if it was done that doesn't mean that the gun wasn't set to shoot 190fps. It is amusing how one person in paintball can say something with no proof and it then becomes general fact with no futher validation.
Not trying to bust your chops, but 2200 off of a 68/45 is a joke - and I remember when this originally came out - couldn't be validated then - can't be now. Find me someone who can SHOW someone 2200 shots at 290fps and I'll eat crow.
-Calvin
From a poster at PB Nation:
""Jim, back to your cave. Bob Long is on the batphone..."
I don't believe this for one minute - Ethan from the "Free Flow" company (I think Pro Paintball) started this myth. No one I know has EVER been able to reproduce it, including (from what I hear) him - even after multiple challanges. Even if it was done that doesn't mean that the gun wasn't set to shoot 190fps. It is amusing how one person in paintball can say something with no proof and it then becomes general fact with no futher validation.
Not trying to bust your chops, but 2200 off of a 68/45 is a joke - and I remember when this originally came out - couldn't be validated then - can't be now. Find me someone who can SHOW someone 2200 shots at 290fps and I'll eat crow.
-Calvin
In my 13 years of paintball, I have never seen a cocker do this. Only marker I've ever seen get that efficiency is the Excal and Viking.
Originally posted by WARPED1 In my 13 years of paintball, I have never seen a cocker do this. Only marker I've ever seen get that efficiency is the Excal and Viking.
After owning 2 Vikings, I can say that 2200 is a bit of stretch for even them.
-Calvin
From a poster at PB Nation:
""Jim, back to your cave. Bob Long is on the batphone..."
About that 2200 on a 68/45 thing:
somebody did the math on the energy required to accelerate a paintball to 980 fps or so and compared that to the energy in a tank... even if the gun was 100% effecient ie, no gas to move the bolt to cock the gun and ALL the gas went down the barrel the gun would have still had to have been over 120% effecient. Not gonna happen while newton still matters.
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Well, unfortunately for some people Newton doesn't matter when it comes to range either. Maybe Einstein could tell us how the Matrix shoots 2300 off a 68/45 as well as how a closed bolt shoots farther than an open bolt even with the same velocity.
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