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  • WARPED1
    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
    • Nov 2001
    • 7458

    #16
    Originally posted by AcemanPB
    Does anyone have any REAL numbers on how many shots an 03' shocker would get out of a 68/4500?
    I got 750 on m,y buddies when I tested it.
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    • cledford
      Registered User
      • Feb 2001
      • 1386

      #17
      Originally posted by lew
      A properly tuned and setup Cocker can 2200 shots from a 68/45. AKA guns are definately efficient.
      I don't believe this for one minute - Ethan from the "Free Flow" company (I think Pro Paintball) started this myth. No one I know has EVER been able to reproduce it, including (from what I hear) him - even after multiple challanges. Even if it was done that doesn't mean that the gun wasn't set to shoot 190fps. It is amusing how one person in paintball can say something with no proof and it then becomes general fact with no futher validation.

      Not trying to bust your chops, but 2200 off of a 68/45 is a joke - and I remember when this originally came out - couldn't be validated then - can't be now. Find me someone who can SHOW someone 2200 shots at 290fps and I'll eat crow.

      -Calvin
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      • WARPED1
        I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
        • Nov 2001
        • 7458

        #18
        Originally posted by cledford


        I don't believe this for one minute - Ethan from the "Free Flow" company (I think Pro Paintball) started this myth. No one I know has EVER been able to reproduce it, including (from what I hear) him - even after multiple challanges. Even if it was done that doesn't mean that the gun wasn't set to shoot 190fps. It is amusing how one person in paintball can say something with no proof and it then becomes general fact with no futher validation.

        Not trying to bust your chops, but 2200 off of a 68/45 is a joke - and I remember when this originally came out - couldn't be validated then - can't be now. Find me someone who can SHOW someone 2200 shots at 290fps and I'll eat crow.

        -Calvin
        In my 13 years of paintball, I have never seen a cocker do this. Only marker I've ever seen get that efficiency is the Excal and Viking.
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        • cledford
          Registered User
          • Feb 2001
          • 1386

          #19
          Originally posted by WARPED1
          In my 13 years of paintball, I have never seen a cocker do this. Only marker I've ever seen get that efficiency is the Excal and Viking.
          After owning 2 Vikings, I can say that 2200 is a bit of stretch for even them.

          -Calvin
          From a poster at PB Nation:

          ""Jim, back to your cave. Bob Long is on the batphone..."

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          • WARPED1
            I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
            • Nov 2001
            • 7458

            #20
            Originally posted by cledford


            After owning 2 Vikings, I can say that 2200 is a bit of stretch for even them.

            -Calvin
            You are right, it was closer to 1900..........
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            • cledford
              Registered User
              • Feb 2001
              • 1386

              #21
              Originally posted by speedyejl
              Trix with Evolve bolt kit 2300shots 68/45

              For your price range a LED trix would really offer the best performance and air consumption.
              Yeah, right! This is one of the funniest bogus claims I've ever heard - and paintball is full of them...

              Sorry dude, there's no way. That is unless the balls are rolling out the end of the barrel...

              -Calvin
              From a poster at PB Nation:

              ""Jim, back to your cave. Bob Long is on the batphone..."

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              • Korrosion
                Registered User
                • Oct 2002
                • 149

                #22
                About that 2200 on a 68/45 thing:
                somebody did the math on the energy required to accelerate a paintball to 980 fps or so and compared that to the energy in a tank... even if the gun was 100% effecient ie, no gas to move the bolt to cock the gun and ALL the gas went down the barrel the gun would have still had to have been over 120% effecient. Not gonna happen while newton still matters.
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                • WARPED1
                  I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 7458

                  #23
                  980 FPS?! Was that a typo or an actual figure used in that test?
                  Last edited by WARPED1; 11-06-2003, 05:26 PM.
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                  • Chubby McFatso
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 9

                    #24
                    Not gonna happen while newton still matters.
                    Well, unfortunately for some people Newton doesn't matter when it comes to range either. Maybe Einstein could tell us how the Matrix shoots 2300 off a 68/45 as well as how a closed bolt shoots farther than an open bolt even with the same velocity.

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                    • WARPED1
                      I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 7458

                      #25
                      Some players(not you guys) need to take a physics class..............
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                      • FalconGuy016
                        Divine Right, Pevs @ AG
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 6127

                        #26
                        Originally posted by WARPED1
                        980 FPS?! Was that a typo or an actual figure used in that tesat?
                        Did the math
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