AGD needs some Feedback on this Ad

[pito189]

What post generated 1700 replys in 2 and a half hours??????

[AGD]

[ThePatriot]

Guys...Guys...guys....Tom came up with this idea, now AGD is a big company..im sure if Tom didnt kno how to market he wouldnt be where he is today, but the matter of fact is he DOES kno how to market things, which explains the automags success, and im sure this was his idea, so let him do it, we have never tried marketing things before(with the exception of lord shartley) but he hasnt marketed paintball "stuff" to my knowledge, so lets let tom do what tom wants....plus calling his idea bad is gonna piss him off, making us no longer get free things for doing nothing (IE: superbolt contest) so let the man decide

[zads27]

Text ads don't really work unless you include visuals. Pretty colors, etc,.

Idea:
1 page ad for E-mag, SFl, superbolt, 4500s, what have you.

Second page:
All you freeloaders out there that won stuff for free on AO (E-mag contests, RT Pros, Superbolts, Warp feeds, etc,.)
Why don't you send Tom pictures of you and your free toys that you won on AO (well, don't send them unless Tom gives the ok.. I don't want to be responsible for Tom getting a bunch of unwelcomed email), then make a collaboration of photos or something, some good caption (Here's a lame one: "Automags.org.. on what other forum can you win all these free doodles?"), which takes up half the page.
Then below maybe Tom puts a picture of his Marker Dyno with Marker X in it, and a picture of the high speed/super mini cameras, with a paintball in the barrel, or coming out of the barrel, something like that. Then another good caption ("Automags.org.. where else can you find free REAL technical/scientific information about paintball products?")

Well, so that's my little idea. Appeals to people looking for a new marker, people who like to look at pretty markers (well, don't we all..?), people who like free stuff, people who like to learn scientifically proven facts- rather than hype, it advertises the AGD products, as well as Automags.org.. what do you think?

[shartley]

ThePatriot
LOL Your Post was funny.

From you-

Guys...Guys...guys....Tom came up with this idea, now AGD is a big company..im sure if Tom didnt kno how to market he wouldnt be where he is today, but the matter of fact is he DOES kno how to market things

But then in Tom's actual post above yours, he wrote this...

Again, because I suck at marketing...

He used to have someone on staff that did Marketing, but really the Automag's success has to do with its quality, not its marketing. We have had THAT discussion many time here on AO.

Also you said-

so lets let tom do what tom wants....plus calling his idea bad is gonna piss him off, making us no longer get free things for doing nothing (IE: superbolt contest) so let the man decide

LOL That is REALLY funny. Tom did NOT want a love-fest over his idea. He wanted HELP. If you are worried that telling Tom what you think will upset him and he will stop being nice to you, how is that helping him? Trust me, telling Tom an idea of his is not a good one will not cause him to be mean to you, or to AO.

And finally (but not actually the last thing you said)... you stated -

we have never tried marketing things before(with the exception of lord shartley) but he hasnt marketed paintball "stuff" to my knowledge

Well, let me expand your knowledge ... I have marketed things for the Paintball Industry. And I have said time and again here on AO how thinking the Paintball Industry or its products fall under different Marketing Rules, Guidelines, or Standards is one of the things that keeps the Industry as a whole down. I touched a little on that with my other post. So I will not get into it again.

But as always, people are free to either use my advice, or simply pass it by. I don't mind one way or the other. My clients do though, and they see the benefits as well as why I say what I do. And please don't think you can say you don't like something about AGD, AO, Tom or any of AGD's products. It is HOW things are said that is important, and all information is important, not just the "good" stuff. Tom not only expects that, but relies on it. So yes, Tom wants people to be honest.

[ThePatriot]

Shartley...Tom and I, we bost posted at the same time, i looked and the last message i saw was pito189 asking what contest got so many posts in 2 and a half hours...then when i posted it and came back later...i then noticed Tom's post above it, so if i had known about tom's post mine would be much different, and i am very glad to see you found my post amusing..o and my little dont piss off tom thing was supposed to be a joke, you thought everything of my post hilarious except that, you were to busy pissing your pants in hysterics at the whole rest of it that, u didnt realize my tom not liking us was a joke....

O and shartley, im sorry i didnt read your whole other post, i never do, they are to long...details arent needed, i prefer the short and to the point, you shouldda been like...i do this sort of thing as a job and well your wrong tom, i know what to do and you dont..bow to me TK, I OWN U...now that would of been interesting

[shartley]

I hope you did not take offense, I really and truly did not intend any. But I hope you can see that if you read the posts in the orders they were posted in, it is a bit funny.

My Wife said you probably wrote it when Tom was writing his (as you indicated) and I thought so too... that is what makes it even more funny. It is like tossing up a coin and seeing both extremes flash by, but not knowing which will land face up.

And I only mentioned about the upsetting Tom thing because there seem to actually BE people who think like that here on AO. I hope you understand.

[rifleman]

Sniff...Sniff...
Is that smoke I smell?

Easy guys, kinda ironic how your acting in relation to a post that is trying to "attract" people.

[ThePatriot]

Its ok shartley, i unlike many people, can take a flame and turn it into something funny....even if you were making fun of my post i dont mind at all, its all in good fun. Kinda like when your friends make fun of ya, its not as bad as some total stranger, and everyone here on AO is my friend...i think, anyway no harm was done with the original post, i was just trying to be a pain in the arse in a funnyish manner, (pissing your pants in hysterics) if you get what im sayin

And rifleman...this thread itself wont attract anyone, plus u kno violence and controversy sells things....look at the WWF(violence)...and its one of the biggest companies in the world, makes billions a year.....we got the Jerry Springer theme goin here, o and a quick question to whoever knows, i sent an email to someone via AO, how would i check if i had any email feedback? does it get sent to my actual email acct?

[shartley]

Yes, it gets your actual E-Mail address along with the e-mail you sent. They will respond back directly to your e-mail account.

And sorry, I was not intending to flame you, nor did I flame you. And I do not want to be a part of a Jerry Springer "theme".. this is actually a very important topic for Tom.

[ThePatriot]

Yes and since tom was working very hard..why not let him have a laugh or two? the man deserves it...he was probably up all night debating this, right now hes sore from paintball and hes got a nasty hangover from those caffeine pills....Tom....we love you man(we being the entity that is AO)

[Tbone]

Good idea for spreading AO. Whenever I go to the field, I bring some index cards and a pen to write out http://www.automags.org and distribute it to all the automag owners.

[Vegeta]

Hopper stickies too people!
I have one I printed out onto some sticky paper and put on my hopper (Its on a M98.. but .. hey.. this forum is waaaay to awesome to leave just becuase you don't own a mag right?). Now you walk on the feild, win so horribly like all the AOers do.. then they come to congradulate you.. and they see you have a AO stiker on your hopper.. and think .. "hmm.." and thats all it takes.now after a few months, that person now has all their friends and teammates on AO, and he decides he wants a hopper sticker. the process starts all over again, spreading out in a web.

And also.. what would make alot of tunred heads.. Goggle Skins.. if you ahevnt heard of them.. the site is www.tacpro.com . Squeegie at www.paintballzone.com works there and he showed us how easy it was to make em... Now, say AO made a design, and say about 550 Aoers bought em, well, thats 550 little advertisments all over the US...

[irbodden]

AO Gear would be a better idea in my opinion. How much does a 2 page add run for in any large scale paintball magazine. Why not invest that money into a run of AO gear, I know we covered this before, but I personally belief its a much better idea. Not just "Paintball" stuff either, make things people would wear around town like an Automags.org lanyard for their keys, nice trendy flexfit hats, etc. . The great thing about this idea is you get money back for your investment which could be thrown back into the market in another form. Look at the A0 patches, people are going crazy over a PATCH.

[graycie]

then we can all have blue denim shirts like TK!