What does a $400 to $450 TAC-One mean to you

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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #1

    What does a $400 to $450 TAC-One mean to you

    Ok... I had to bring this out of the pricing thread as it seems everyone expects the courtesy of having their post read without bothering to read the posts before them - sorry rant.

    What it means to me: Next season my backup marker will STRONGLY resemble my primary marker (I'm thinking a blue ULE rather than black on this one) - so yes, smart move on AGDs part, I think they will catch some of the market that may have been looking around.

    It means that I will not try out an AKA Viking next year, I am more comfortable without electronics, software, upgrades. I do realize some of the potential advantages they offer, however I also understand nearly every advantage comes with a disadvantage. My comfort in not worrying about the marker will allow me to play better.

    It means that all three mags currently in my closet are about to take a nosedive in resale value. The comment was made by TK in another thread, eventually markers will come down so far in price you will just keep them. Im now at that point with both my minimag and classic mag.

    It also means I will run identical set-ups. When I change nitro tanks and drops this spring I will have to buy two. Identical setups will allow me to switch out guns without any "awkward" feeling should the need arise.

    Just curious of that kind of bargain changes anyone elses plans.
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  • dansim
    ive been busy
    • Jun 2001
    • 4479

    #2
    it means im gonna pass cause well it looks like a mag and i dont need to drop 400 on another mag (i got an uber warp ule) if it had a ris rail extending under the rail and perhaps out under the barrel for under mounted accesories then perhaps but till then ill just build an a5 scenario marker

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    • BarryTolar
      Registered User
      • Nov 2001
      • 131

      #3
      Curious why you call it a bargin ?

      Also I can't see it taking the market away from A5's but then again what do I know

      Ahh yeah what you asked - It means I won't be picking one up and really REALLY trying to unload my current Mag quick now

      Barry

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      • Torbo
        teamless
        • Apr 2003
        • 1737

        #4
        well to me it means....ment.... that i dont have a mag anymore. But its the same across the board. Cockers are dirt cheap too. I was gonna sell my STO, but it really isnt worth it. So ive pimped it out, and once i get some other random stuff out of the way(another mask, some more barrels, etc..) its back to saving....this time probably for an Emag or Vike
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        • Meph
          AO's Tippmann Guy
          • Aug 2002
          • 737

          #5
          What does it mean to me? Depends on which me you ask. The player side or the Dealer side of this topic.

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          • Cilio - Knightmare Tango
            Registered User
            • Jul 2003
            • 67

            #6
            Depends on if it comes with an I-Frame or not. If it ends up selling with one for $400 I'll purchase it. I already own two Micro's, a Classic, a Mini and a ULE I built. In those I have three classic Valves, one X-Valve and one gun that I rotate a valve into. The Classic, which I customized with rails for night play, would become by night backup and this would become my primary night gun. If it's any more than $400 I'll just purchase the body because I really don't need another gun. $400 is probably my threshold for wasting more money
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            • Sparq
              Interloper
              • Mar 2002
              • 730

              #7
              To me, it means I may actually see a few mags at the field besides my own and a few other regulars. It also means I'll have a great reason to resist the temptation of replacing my mag with an electro as the resale price falls.
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              • RusskiX
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                • May 2001
                • 500

                #8
                Remember, the point of the whole exercise is to appeal to current NON-mag owners. To some degree, the AO faithful are gonna get screwed with resale. Thats the price you pay to garner back some of the prestige that was once associated with AGD.

                Personally, I'll probably pick one up and jump on the X-valve, level 10 bandwagon since I'm not a current mag owner. And that IS the point, isn't it.
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                • Steelrat
                  I meant to...uh, nevermind
                  • May 2003
                  • 5375

                  #9
                  It means that mag resale values are going to go in the toilet. It also means AGD may have to drop its costs on seperate parts.


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                  • Bad_Dog
                    self proclaimed warpaholic
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 1777

                    #10
                    To me, it means that my friends will stop bugging me about the way the classic mag looks stock (plain)... BTW its one hella cool looking marker!

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                    • AGD
                      The man from AGD

                      • Oct 2000
                      • 5916

                      #11
                      Interesting thread.

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                      • Smokee_2_7
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2000
                        • 823

                        #12
                        To me (as a dealer), it means that i will be able to sell MANY more airgun markers. Up to this point, the price was significantly higher than that of the competition for roughly the same performance. Now, the Tac-one is competitivly priced, as well as offers superb performance. That's simply a deal you can't go wrong with- - and I will DEFINITLY tell my customers the same.


                        Personally, it means that i WILL pick up one of these bad boys to though into my collection.

                        As far as the resale value goes. . its life. Ive been dealing with poor resale value on markers for years. Guns that I put over $1000 into are now selling for 400 dollars. That has been happening for years. Yes, loosing re-sale market sucks, but it is simply part of life. However, From a business perspective, it does suggest that you will see an increase in sales of new markers. . fewer people will buy used because they can get a better deal on a new one.

                        In my opinion, this is probably the best decision that AGD has ever made.


                        Carl

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                        • AGD
                          The man from AGD

                          • Oct 2000
                          • 5916

                          #13
                          We are thinking about ways to deal with the fact there is no dealer price. One idea is to sell it without a warrantee and let the dealers upcharge for that.

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                          • Steelrat
                            I meant to...uh, nevermind
                            • May 2003
                            • 5375

                            #14
                            I dunno about that idea. The average paintball player I see probably isnt too worried about a warranty. They will generally buy it wherever it is cheapest.

                            I'd like to point out that I am considering getting one as a backup. Its a fantastic price for all you get. Did AGD ever consider doing a type-3 anno on it? That anno is exceedingly hard, and would add to the military feel of the marker. I realize that it is a more expensive anno.


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                            • Meph
                              AO's Tippmann Guy
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 737

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Smokee_2_7
                              To me (as a dealer), it means that i will be able to sell MANY more airgun markers.
                              Not according to how I'm seeing this through the shop's eyes. Sounds more like AGD is again underselling their dealers.

                              Plus I'm seeing this as now customers not even buying the current mags I have in stock unless I'm selling at cost. Once they see said price of Tac-One and what it consists of. [/i]"Oh a 68classic for THAT much? But I can get a Tac-One with goodies and blah blah blah"[/i]


                              Simply put I'm less than thrilled at the decision. But hey I don't run the company so I have no say.

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