whoa! super souped spyder!

[Xyxyll]

Why are these threads popping up on here? And I have always thought that AO wasn't ignorant.

Why put money into a Spyder? Why not? A Spyder and any other marker will shoot the same velocity, same consistancy (if using same air system), same accuracy (factored by same air system, same barrels, and same paint). And I assure you, a Spyder can fully cycle faster than most people think. 40+ full cycles per second. Spyders offer countless upgrade options and can easily be customized. They are simple, efficient, convenient and inexpensive.

Give me factual reasons as to why Spyders suck. I would say that I've never seen someone back up their claims, but one person did happen to post a nice post backing up his thoughts yesterday on another forum.

Oh, it's an inexpensive marker and newbies use it! It's gotta suck!

[Ityl]

Originally posted by Xyxyll
A Spyder and any other marker will shoot the same velocity, same consistancy (if using same air system), same accuracy (factored by same air system, same barrels, and same paint).

Not quite. Tolerances in a Spyder (and many guns like it) aren't that great. Even with a reg and good paint to barrel match, I wasn't able to get good consistency out of a Spyder (I consider good +/- 2, which I always got with my mag). Or take my Bruizer Pro I had, compare to my cousin's spyder. We had the same barrel, the same paint, but for some reason my gun was always much more accurate. Probably because the Bruizer was better made.

Not saying a Spyder isn't a good marker, it's cheap, and works more times than not. With a good barrel it's decently accurate. If someone wants to put $1000 into a Spyder, more power to him. No way I'll do it though.

[darwin]

i almost got a spyder then decided i would get a piranna.. then i said **** why spend the money when i can just pony up and got an e-mag.

ive only seen one other person shooting a mag at the field i play at and it was an rt pro. same drop as mine. was a good feeling to see.

espeically when he lit me up mulitple times.

but i love the questions i get from people about the gun or the people that want to try shooting it.

i would still love a timmy just to have around

[WARPED1]

Theres really no difference between a Piranha and a Spyder. Except Kingman goes quantity over quality. Same guy designed both.

[dinger]

ANYWAYS


those spyders are nice.


lets not hurt each other in this thread :)

as for kingman making a tourny gun, all i have to say is /me laf

they make big beans from newbs, and if they make a higher end gun they would probably be wasting their time since there are so many other really good guns out there. i doubt that it would be that stupendous anyways :\

this makes me itch until BE makes a tourny ready gun

[Xyxyll]

I had consistancy problems with unregulated CO2, HPA, and badly regulated CO2 and HPA... but ever since I popped the vertical max-flow on the Spyder, I get +/- 1fps. The tolerances of the Spyder bodies are not usually consistant from batch to batch (I give ya props for pointing out a factual flaw w/ Spyders), but some bodies end up pretty nice... and there are aftermarket bodies for Spyders with much better tolerences (BLM, VLM, SBM, VCB, FBM). A properly fixed Spyder can easily be as good, fast, consistant, efficient, and light as any high-end gun.

[LeatherPants]

As mush as it's a waste to fix up a spyder....I should know. My first marker was a Black Dragun which is another Syper Clone. But I put EVERY part available for it on. And after a month I got rid of it realizing that hey no matter what I do to it it's still a Spyder/Black Dragun etc. It will never be a tourney gun.

It's kinda like fixing up a Civic or any other ricer car. So you get the car to run 13's 12's etc but you know what when you pull up to the valet everyone just sees a Civic.....That's why you buy a real sports car or marker or whatever. You can only fool your self for so long till you realize....yea this thing sucks.

[Xyxyll]

Please give me reasons as to why a Spyder is not a good tourny gun? What handicap is keeping it from shooting 280fps just like every other marker!

[FragTek]

What I am trying to say is that Kingman HAS the money and engineers required to POTENTIALLY make probably one of the best tourny guns of all time, yet this is probably something will NEVER happen because they are doing just fine with their low-end Spyder series. The potential is there though, for Kingman to create a great gun.

[Xyxyll]

Originally posted by FragTek
What I am trying to say is that Kingman HAS the money and engineers required to POTENTIALLY make probably one of the best tourny guns of all time, yet this is probably something will NEVER happen because they are doing just fine with their low-end Spyder series. The potential is there though, for Kingman to create a great gun.

I was talking to Leatherpants. Kingman definitely could put out an awesome tournament gun, but they choose not to because of the success of the Spyder. They tried the whole high-end marker deal once (EM1) and did not receive the profits that they had hoped to get, so they discontinued it and went back to the Spyders. At least Kingman is beginning to move in the right direction (There's supposed to be one or two guns out by Xmas w/ eyes...), but they're makin us customizers' projects useless (ACE is a big project nowadays.. and the minute we start getting it to work, Kingman decides to make it stock).

[FragTek]

Whoops, sorry Xyxyll, I was trying to direct that last post to dinger :) But yeah, I think I stand where you stand on that issue.

[WARPED1]

Kingman tried a tourney gun. The EM1, which was a great gun. But no one bought it because it said Spyder. And to the tourney crowd, Spyder=n00bie. I love the EM1, I'm looking for one...........

[FragTek]

I've seen a few people shooting them, but I've never held one or shot one myself, are they pretty nice? Max ROF and such? They seem to be nice guns....

[Xyxyll]

WARPED1: I found one for $100... could probably haggle him down to as low as $85. PM me for info on the sale.

[1ofkind]

Nice book reports guys , I can't belive you think people would read that.... Novelist aren't fedup for forums, tron, not to menchin any names.