Customer says Nitrogen is better?

[Rope a Dope]

I have a customer that comes into my shop and says at his work he gets nitrogen pretty easily. So he fills his paintball tanks with nitrogen. He says it's better than when he filled it with air because nitrogen is more dry and more consistent and you don't see a white puff out the end of your barrel when you shoot it.

He's a nice guy and even shoots a warped E-Mag (very few shoot mags here in CA) and he just got his brother into the sport. Not come elitist jerk that says we do it all wrong and nitrogen is better, lol. He just says he has noticed better performance with nitrogen than air because it is more dry. He says he has to oil his gun more often because of it.

Anyone ever use nitrogen, is it better? I ask because every paintball article I read said for paintball nitrogen has no advantage over air in a paintball gun.

Next time we're at the field he said he'll give me a few fills so I can see for myself.

[cris8762]

it might be slightly cleaner...but i dunno, that's just what i would assume if he's using pure nitrogen

[Miscue]

Urm, it's not significantly "better." CA is mostly nitrogen anyway.

[DJBacon06]

I would guess its cleaner (I use Nitrogen) there really isn't a difference...afterall, Nitrogen makes up 70% of the air we breathe (and put into your tank in your case) anyway.

[Rope a Dope]

ah, thought so, lol

Maybe it's just like that scene in Spaceballs where Mel Brooks opens a can of french air and breathes it.

[68magOwner]

umm, ive always used nitrogen, because thats what the proshop has, but somebody let us know if its really better, so i can be greatful its all they have

[Kevmaster]

at my field....we tried both, went with compressed air because it was cheaper...

they're equal for all intents and purposes..

[rdb123]

Originally posted by Kevmaster
at my field....we tried both, went with compressed air because it was cheaper...

they're equal for all intents and purposes..

Here's a question: supposing you get your tank filled with air, would you have to completely empty your tank before taking in nitrogen?

Thanks

[Mag Master 04]

strait nitrogen is cold, very cold, just like the effect co2 has...when moving at a high rate and compressed so quickly it is cold...with CA it is warm because the molecules expand faster...and give it a warmth, we have strait nitrogen at work and its crazy cold, but we cant compress it enough to fill my tank

[SSMercury]

Originally posted by Mag Master 04
strait nitrogen is cold, very cold, just like the effect co2 has...when moving at a high rate and compressed so quickly it is cold...with CA it is warm because the molecules expand faster...and give it a warmth, we have strait nitrogen at work and its crazy cold, but we cant compress it enough to fill my tank

Eh? I'm sorry, but I can't make heads or tails out of this entire post. Could you clarify it?

[Butterfingers]

Originally posted by Mag Master 04
strait nitrogen is cold, very cold, just like the effect co2 has...when moving at a high rate and compressed so quickly it is cold...with CA it is warm because the molecules expand faster...and give it a warmth, we have strait nitrogen at work and its crazy cold, but we cant compress it enough to fill my tank

Liquid nitro is cold Gaseous nitro has the same properties as air.

Liquid and compressed nitrogen are two diffrent things.

For all intensive purposes gaseous nitrogen and air are the same. Air is composed of 70 percent gasous nitrogen anyway. If you get you fills at a scuba place the air is 5x filtered and certified breathable. Dosent get higher qual than that.

[Methylphenidate]

78.084% nitrogen in the earths atmosphere

thats scary that i knew that off the top of my head.
WOW im actually learning in school i never noticed it before

[thei3ug]

he better find out what grade of nitrogen he's using...

if he works in a machine shop, tell him he better be putting a filter on that fill station. Who knows what he's putting into his gun. He could be getting all sorts of particulates.

As for "cleaner," it all depends. that's like claiming that seawater is better than koolaid because it doesn't have all the red stuff in it.

As for more consistant.... no. that's already been touched. they both behave the same.

As for dryer... once again, depends on his source of nitrogen, but just because you see a little condensation doesn't mean it's any better.

[Lohman446]

I was under the impression that pure nitrogen (assuming good quality no particles etc.) was slightly more desireable than compressed air. The reasoning behind it having to do with no fluctuation in the amount of different gasses inside your tank which could effect consistency. That being said, most who have made this argument, have also immediatly noted that while it is theoretically better in all practical purposes you are going to see very little difference between nitrogen (as a gas - if someones dealing with or has managed to put liquid nitrogen in their tank they need a new tank ASAP) and compressed air in application in regards to paintball markers.

[logamus]

Originally posted by Lohman446
it is theoretically better in all practical purposes you are going to see very little difference between nitrogen (as a gas - if someones dealing with or has managed to put liquid nitrogen in their tank they need a new tank ASAP) and compressed air in application in regards to paintball markers.

and thats the bottom line because stone cold said so.


remember, either source is a billion times better than co2.