New Warpfeed electronics

[Willystyle21]

bashing

Eh are we going to get into a bashing arguement? Yeah you are right alot (and I mean ALOT) of people specially E-5's and above need to do some form of a workout, but just because I happen to be in the Air Force does not mean I am a pansy. Ever heard of combat controller's? Yeah just kidding I know. Sides I dont do they weather reports, god they suck. I just fix the planes. And you HAVE to love the C-130's (cough cough) that you get deployed by all the time. What is your MOS anyhow kosmo?

[ultimatetrooper]

Will this make the warp feed faster than the PTP 12 volt warp kit? If so... Then i gotta get another warp

thanks,

trooper

[WickedAirSportz]

I have decided to scrap the current design. I was just trying to basically improve the stock board design, and I think that was a mistake from the start.

I will have a new prototype in a week.

The new unit will not have a voltage regulator, but you will be able to feed it up to 24 volts. There is a big MOSFET (60 amps of current capability in case you are going to use it for battlebot competition or something - LOL!).

The motor output is pulsed, which reduces the amount of heat generated by the motor, and greatly makes it more efficient. I designed the motor control circuitry around the same stuff I did for the R/C car industry (speed controller). This allows us to make the motor go faster than what a 12 volt regulation would be, and prevent the motor from getting damaged when doing so.

I am also looking at using the connector idea that someone had here. I think it would be a better way to go instead of having to solder anything to the board, you solder your wires. No possible damage to the board from those using a blow torch for soldering.

The request lines are open... I will be submitting the new PCB to the manufacturer tomorrow morning, so if guys/gals have any last minute suggestions, please let me know now!

Thanks!

[sniper1rfa]

yeah, you gotta figure out how to intellifeed with a board running a common power source. or, at the very least, prevent damage from those trying to do so.

why were you using a voltage reg in the first place? i figured your original proto was already PWM.

oh yeah, when we build battlebots, we use relays, not mosfets. :-P

[WickedAirSportz]

I used PWM with the voltage regulated version, and it worked, but I noticed that some people wanted an even faster motor speed which wasn't possible without removing the 12 volt cap.

NOBODY uses relays in battle bot competition. I have gotten to know most of the big battle bot builders, and we all use MOSFET based speed controllers. I have a lightweight battle bot that I will put to the test next season.

[edweird]

Nice...

I will take 2 once they come out'

However I concour with everyone on one thing

Death to the snaps!

Go with a drop in system Like my clear revy has.

[Willystyle21]

Damn, Wicked got back to it first. Yeah mosfets are used over relays do to the relays being "full on" or "full off" speed controllers use a system much like a rheostat or a pot. Hell the battle bots web site says to use speed controllers last time i looked at it. Still want one wicked whenever you get em out to the public.

[sniper1rfa]

ok fine, ill give you that for drive motors. relays (we use spikes, made by the people who make the IFI controllers) for solenoids and crap though. that was more what i was thinking about, because i forgot that you had adjustable speed as a feaure of the board. sorry, my bad.


however, NOBODY uses voltage regulators... :P


BTW, i have competed for three years in battlebots, three years ago in california, last year in florida (for battlebots IQ, a high school based curriculum my friends dad, mike bastoni, created alongside battlebots), and last year again in california. good times.

[PsychoBaller]

If this board works well.... I may be very interested.

Will it work if u intellifeed a wire from the Emag/Xmag/SFL Emag board, right to the new Warp Board ? so it will spin when u pull the trigger? (via the electric impulse)

~da baller

[WickedAirSportz]

Will it work if u intellifeed a wire from the Emag/Xmag/SFL Emag board, right to the new Warp Board ? so it will spin when u pull the trigger? (via the electric impulse)

Yes, the stock warp board can be setup this way as well. The 3/32 phone plug is being kept, along with the same push button (now used for power on/off, prime, and programming).

[IcantBelieveit]

just let us know how it goes buddy...and one question off topic...are there any plans for an E-mag board?

[WickedAirSportz]

We don't have anything planned for the E-Mag.

[lamby]

Jim,

There is only one other thing that I can think of for your new proto-type. Do you think there would be enough room for another 3/32 jack that could be used as an output? This would make intelifeeding the hoppers so much easier. A huge request would be a second control fet that could then be used to control the hoppers duration, speed, delay ect...

I like what you have already, and I am glad that you are looking at running a connector for dc input. I think that is the biggest problem of the stock boards. The wires are crappy and there is no stress relief for them. I used silicone wire for flexibility, and installed stress relief on my 12v rig and never had another problem. Just something to think about when you make the power harness.

Your board (even the first prototype) is WAY BETTER than the stock one! I LOVE adjustability, and I HATE jumpers.

[WickedAirSportz]

Unfortunately, there is not enough room to use a connector. The battery packs would hit the connector. 9 volt batteries (two) would fit if you really crammed everything in and shut the door. There's just not enough room. I guess I will just provide the motor outputs already on the board, making a wire-to-motor soldering job instead of wire-to-board solder job. I will also include a motor bypass capacitor. There should be a capacitor across the motor to eliminate the false triggers of the piezo sensor.

I am not sure why people want their hopper to spin on the trigger pull. The Warp makes sense, because you have to activate it, but as soon as the Warp moves, the hopper instantly starts. I spent a lot of time doing hopper testing, and I am still developing our hopper. I just don't see the need for an output. Every hopper is quite a bit different (Halo, Egg, Revy), and there is really no way to tell any of these to turn on without several extra parts. Again, it comes down to space... the board is packed (even more so than now than the previous prototype). There is not enough space to add the PROPER circuitry to trigger a hopper.

[RoadDawg]

I'm just gonna chime my two cents into this. The board is a great idea and I'd most likely go for one if it isn't up high in price. I like several others would like to see the snaps leave and never come back. If I knew how and what I was doing I would of modded it myself. The on/off idea is great due to the fact I constantly forget about the batteries in the warp. The speed of the board doesn't really bother me since I shot a mechanical mag and can't even come near to the cap now. I got really confused towards the end so if this has been answered then please forgive me. Will intellifeeding it still work with a mech mag? Thanx. Look forward to hearing more on the progress of this.