34bps?! What?!

[sniper1rfa]

electrical bounce, mechanical bounce, who cares? it would still have to do it 100 times a second for a 10 second debounce to have any effect.
besides, your "mechanical bounce" shouldnt matter, cause your not actually pulling the trigger that fast, its just vibrating.

and he meant, we wouldnt mind a break, because at that rate, your effectively trying to feed at 50 bps (at 25 bps), considering about half the time is spent moving the bolt...

i too would like to see a comparison of the stock board's power supply (to the 'noid) versus yours. if you have the equipment, use it damnit, dont make us do your work. back up your product, dont just spout a lot of hot air.
your refusal makes you seem scared. dosnt matter what your real reasons are if you look scared to everybody else.


and i find it hard to believe you (or whoever did the vid) moving the trigger that fast no matter how you hold the thing. i dont deny its cycling that fast though.
I betcha you could get a stock timmy going that fast however, provided with a way to move the trigger that fast. (maybe a full auto capable board replacing the microswitch?).

it seems to me that since all the board is doing to the 'noid is completing a curcuit (no regulation or anything) that the solenoid firing would be totally dependent on the battery, not your board. mabey your board wont fry as easy, but it shouldnt do anything else.

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by WickedAirSportz
That's a problem with many people here. If I don't respond, I am "proven wrong". If I respond with 100% accurate information, I am wrong.

Usually, it's because you selectively ignore posts and points. You concentrate on one thing to divert attention and obfuscate to 'explain' it. Most of the time the explaination is simply "you don't/can't understand". Just look at the way in which you have to redefine the debounce setting, but refuse to make yourself clear or address simple direct questions.

You want proof, I provide a method for YOU to get it, as I don't feel it is necessary to provide you anything more than that.

Well, I for one will not buy anything just to test it out. I also do not accept hype and dubious claims as proof. AI and "ball slap" from cheap pic circuitry giving 16 bps from a revvvy comes to mind. That and the various gyrations that WAS has done concerning the release schedule of boards and the number of times it seems you have to send boards back, has convinced me I'd never be one of your customers.

The only way I'd test your equipment is if someone loaned it to me for testing. The fact is that every test done on the revvy boards was dismissed by you as incomplete or incorrectly done.

Wrong! You are assuming that the Debounce is a standard electrical debounce. This is not the case. Perhaps I should rename this feature to "trigger sensativity" or "recoil sensativity".

Alright, you've renamed it. Standard debounce circuits are just "switch sensitivity adjusters". But besides ignoring the trigger for a set amount of time what does yours do? If it's just: detect trigger, wait for debounce setting time, check for new trigger pull, then no matter what you call it, a pause is a pause. Also if that is the case then my calculations are spot on.

You're insulting my intelligence by simply stating that it's something different than a standard switch debounce without bothering to attmept to enlighten me. Like I said, 'noise' is 'noise'. The switch and the circuit don't care whether the additional switch pulse comes from 'recoil' or standard electromechanical bounce of the switch contacts.

You've yet to address how locking the feature out in tournament mode helps legalise illegal triggers. Which was/is one of your claims. The only reason to lock it out is because it causes ILLEGAL triggers.

Anyone with my background could easily produce a video showing a pump gun being shot at 25bps, and it would look real.

Would love to see it. Anyone who can wank that fast must have money invested with the KY people.

Absolutely, and we have done so.

So if you have tested it, then tell us how you tested it and what your results are. Then we'll all be appropriately amazed and impressed.

There was a video of this about 5 months ago. It was analyzed by someone from this group and reported as 22bps... do a search.

Cool. If it was shooting paint, the Intimidator joins the Emag on my list of rediculous wastes of money for abilities I don't need.

I would have a fit if there was a broken ball due to the Equalizer.

Well good for you. Produce your video to a higher standard, don't break any paint, and we'll all be impressed and amazed.

[manike]

The chrono judge I talked about reckoned he turned away 10-15 intimidators from his field alone at the World Cup. He also turned away a lot of e-mags and RT's that had bouncy reactive triggers due to an input pressure that was too high.

manike

[WickedAirSportz]

You've yet to address how locking the feature out in tournament mode helps legalise illegal triggers. Which was/is one of your claims. The only reason to lock it out is because it causes ILLEGAL triggers.

You are confused about this issue. The tournament lock is to prevent CHANGING the Debounce once set, not eliminating it. Tournament locks are always to prevent change (Dwell, Debounce, and Reset are all missing from the menu). Trigger programming is also not available if the tournament lock is set.

[Timmee]

Jim, you seem like an intelligent person. But just because you seem smart, doesn't mean I'll buy your products. I believe in seeing VERIFIABLE proof of claims. I don't mean this just for your products, but for all products I'm interested in. Am I intrigued about the E-Mag? Yes, but I won't buy one without proof that it's good (by actually trying one). Am I interested in the claimed capabilities of the Equalizer? Yes, but I need proof of the claims you make.

You seem to be pretty good at distracting people (who don't require proof) with bold claims. I'm working on that as well, but I'm practicing to be a magician. What's your excuse?


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