nuaghty dogs making the switch

[PaintballSmurf13]

I totally agree with, Ginjiroku..why should we really care what they shoot...and maybe they get bored of shooting the same gun all the time..I personally don't really like timmys..most of them are fugly, though few are really sic.

I look at it from a different perspective in the opinion that timmys are like the spyders of the high end world. Lo0ok at spyders..so many colors and milling..all just to make them look pretty to sell..they are basically all the same gun..with minor differences...now look at the timmy..so many milling and color choices..all generally the same thing..and they're so bulky..anyways..thats my opinion...

personally..id buy a pimped out ebladed cocker before a timmy..just because it can keep up with timmys and im comfortable with cockers (since i shoot one now and am happy with it)
just my $0.02
-Ryan F.

[FreakBaller12]

money is the root of all evil


just keep that in mind as all these teams switch sponsers

[Python14]

Originally posted by toyotaboy12
money is the root of all evil

Then make me more evil and give me yours.

I say whatever. Nothing is really sacred anymore. Loyalty is just something that you hear about from your grandparents. I do my best to be as loyal as I can, but when it comes down to being held back, I'll do whats in my best interest because in the end, I am all I have.

[Prairie]

I highly doubt this is true...

I wouldnt believe it until I heard it from rocky

[logamus]

while loyality is nice, it seldom pays the bills. i personally could care less what the big pro teams shoot, but its obvious that someone cares otherwise this wouldnt be an issue. instead of being mad at the dogs, go get mad at the credit card kid that has mommy buy the new nd timmy.

[tony3]

Originally posted by Dayspring
Once you hit the 20 bps mark, shooting faster than that becomes moot.




Both will cycle/shoot paint in the upper teens. The hoppers are the limiting factors. I've seen pro teams using both guns. At that high ROF, the diff in ROF is negligable.

Yes, I know that the cocker has more mass to move and therefore cycles slower. However, They're not using stock parts/settings. If you think that, you're sadly mistaken. Those suckers would do 20+ easy.

The reason people like the guns that can accept WAS is b/c of the debounce. AKA- cheater boards.

I have yet to see a video of a cocker shooting 20 bps without shootdown and it breaking paint. I have seen timmy's shoot 20 bps with paint though.

[FreakBaller12]

I say whatever. Nothing is really sacred anymore. Loyalty is just something that you hear about from your grandparents. I do my best to be as loyal as I can, but when it comes down to being held back, I'll do whats in my best interest because in the end, I am all I have.

valid point, that's what the world is becoming i guess,
i still like dynasty none the less and i still like the dogs none the less.

[The Action Figure]

money is not the root of all evil, The love of money is the root of all evil

[SyntaxError]

Originally posted by Dayspring

The reason people like the guns that can accept WAS is b/c of the debounce. AKA- cheater boards.

Actually, Bob Long just did a test and proved that the WAS board tells you you're shooting way faster than you actually are...

Jim Drew is such a BS artist, he'll be sure to get some bonus balls from me.

Eblade cockers>timmys

[wobbles82]

What pro team is it that ya play for that youll be playing the Dogs? Or is it just practice? Anyways, IMO...I used to think the Timmy was poor quality, from HEARING things. I used one when my ULE RT-PRO was getting repaired, used it for awhile, bought a 2k2 and do not plan on looking back as for now. The guns are high quality, if something is not considered high quality then im sure you are mistaken, I mean SURE there are some flaws stock that people manage to find, but if you wanna call it a Spyder with ACE, then heck, Ill call it my ripping Spyder with ACE. As for "cheater boards" ive been hearing a lot about this, and its pretty ridiculous. Has it been done? Yes. Will it be put to a stop? I doubt it, but point is, everyone shoots fast now, and those that have these boards for some reason need that extra ball or 2, and ya know what, a ref sees your board aint locked, hes liable to play the bunker with you and see just HOW you manage to shoot that fast. And if you want to get into the debounce debate, E-Cockers have debounce settings, along with a little something called a backblock. Both are excellent markers, my team uses them practically interchangably and both have no real problems when properly tended to. As for the money issue, like said, greed is the root of all evil, money is not. If they are going to be able to pay the bills and play paintball, im sure they are happy about that. And im sure WGP loves them for all of the Orracles they have sold, as WDP does Dynasty, its just what happens in the industry. Whew.

[Prairie]

Originally posted by tony3


I have yet to see a video of a cocker shooting 20 bps without shootdown and it breaking paint. I have seen timmy's shoot 20 bps with paint though.

You dont look hard enough...

[triggerman]

Ok let me get thid strait timmies are spyders of the electro world......and thats a bad thing how? what was your first gun....ok then what was your second gun. there was a time when spyders where the best selling gun there was. and with good reason. now let me ask you this why do you think timmies sell so good? Just my $.02

[sneakyhacker420]

Originally posted by SyntaxError
Jim Drew is such a BS artist, he'll be sure to get some bonus balls from me.

yeah... you'll be aided with your own WAS board to put out thoes extra balls on him eh?


to tell you the truth, i've heard nothing but whining about WAS board lateley... i truly don't see how a WAS board is a cheater board? why aren't we calling the 3.2 e-mag software a cheater board? they both have shot buffering... they both have debounce... and all that good stuff


whats the difference... the marker that its put on

i love my timmy, and i'll take it over a cocker any day

its lighter, faster, simpler, more reliable, plus more

i dont care how many people call it a spyder, its MY spyder, and it will whoop your ***, so please shut up :o

[BajaBoy]

i couldnt agree with skeaky anymore on this one.

[magsRus]

I went from an Orracle and a Black Magic to a Storm Timmy. I like the Timmy more.


I agree with the person above said. Look at bad company they play with spyders cause their sponsorship from raven and kingman is so strong