Pneumatic Mags: A cure for the SP lawsuit problem and much more?

[cledford]

Originally posted by Jerhew
i love mechanical wackiness so i do like the idea...
but it kind of seems to be over-complicated

And cobbling together a solenoid, board and a bunch of wires doesn't? I remember when the first Shocker (PVI) came out - I was shocked alright!

What is normal today was over complicated a few years ago and in some ways this is actually moving backwards in complication - at least you don't need a pc, oscilloscope, or voltmeter to work on it.


Would you say a pneumatic mag would be LESS reliable then an electronic?

If no, what do we gain?

No silly law suits but get same ROF.
Lighter marker - no batteries
Upgrade path
Another win for innovation
Cheaper (this is my guess) marker

What do we loss?

Some efficiency
Some (could be small, cold be a lot) measure of simplicity and reliability

IS it worth it? Let's talk about the wins and losses and decide. Throw up any more you can think of...

-Calvin

[nicad]

typical shots lost due to energy consuption, assumeing 1530 shots off of a 68/4500 tank(200 CIPSI/shot gun setup): ~4 shots.
For a mag, this total shots lost number is smaller, due to it being a gun that consumes more than 200CIPSI/shot.

[cockermongol]

Originally posted by gtrsi

I just dont see it being all that better than the current mag. I have shot tons of cockers and have yet to be all that impressed.

There would be a major difference in this case. Though I only have limited knowledge of this mod, it appears to me the only thing you would be actuating with the trigger is a 3-way, which is lighter than any mechanical trigger. In the case of autocockers, the problem is you are not JUST actuating a 3-way, you are also dropping a sear that has a considerable ammount of pressure applied to it by the hammer. If you don't believe me, unscrew the cocking rod on any cocker and shoot it. I can easily walk my hinge/bomb 3-way combo without the cocking rod in, and, from what I understand, this is exactly how this trigger would feel. Since the ram would act as the rod compressing the on/off (I think that's how it works), the trigger would only have to actuate the 3-way, meaning a frictionless trigger. You could choose the spring weight to your liking, and get the trigger length to near-nothing with a 2 oz trigger pull. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME!

[Crimson_Turkey]

Im in the process of releasing a new gun that uses a similar system, just with a much shorter and lighter trigger pull than any 3-way. It can be adjusted down to .4mm and a 1.5 oz pull.

[Jack & Coke]

How much pressure is required to trip the sear and close the on/off?