Is the DM4 really that good?

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  • Beemer
    I could tell you but then.

    • Oct 2003
    • 3250

    #46
    I know thats why I said it looked familiar



    missing back half




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    • DiRTyBuNNy
      Registered User
      • Sep 2001
      • 4854

      #47
      Meph...love the animation..that always helps explain the principles behind the matrix operation to people...and yours is really clear to understand..
      Dirty Clothes for Dirty Ballers!

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      • SaS
        Silent.... Like Crabs
        • Jul 2002
        • 390

        #48
        just pointing out the main differences in operations..... just if someone has trouble reading the animation.

        Matrix has air pressure for bolt return, so it looks like. The mag has the main spring.

        The matrix has the "seperation valve" as part of the moving bolt. The Mag has it actuated by the trigger sear.

        Seperation valve... calling it an on/off may of got confusing. But just some devise that seperates the tanks airflow with the airchamber that is used to shoot the ball

        Looks to be, fundamentally, the same thing. Good ol "Piston style" with a air chamber
        but of course, all paintball markers are practically the same .... or at least a few main catagories


        edit..... wow, just came to mind.
        IF you started with the matrix design and was approached with the problem of how to make it mechanical. The end result would be the mag. Just think about it for a second.

        well..... a mag or a funky mix between a cocker and a mag. Mag valve with cocker pneumatics to move the bolt.
        Last edited by SaS; 01-25-2004, 03:48 AM.
        AGD
        Another Great Design....
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        • Beemer
          I could tell you but then.

          • Oct 2003
          • 3250

          #49
          Ya

          need the A I R on the back

          I saw the mag animation around here some where in a sig.

          I thought I saw it here some where or on AGD site, now I cant find it

          Whos got it? Help Please.

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          • SaS
            Silent.... Like Crabs
            • Jul 2002
            • 390

            #50
            here it is
            AGD
            Another Great Design....
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            • Meph
              AO's Tippmann Guy
              • Aug 2002
              • 737

              #51
              Seperation valve... calling it an on/off may of got confusing.


              The reason why I call it an "on/off" is because I try to describe things in uniform. Meaning instead of 5 different proprietary terms I try to use one generalized term. Example being the mag on/off and the matrix Bolt Stem (that's the official term). They both serve the same function of sealing air supply to the air chamber until the bolt has sealed.

              Or like the Bolt Sail of the matrix, I refer to that as well as an "autococker ram" function.


              When you use terms/ideas of products that people already know about and understand. You make it that much easier for them to understand the different item you're explaining.

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              • SaS
                Silent.... Like Crabs
                • Jul 2002
                • 390

                #52
                true... I was creating a new term to discirbe two similarly performing items. Sort of a brouder/generalized term or catagory. Made sense at the time
                AGD
                Another Great Design....
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                • magman109
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 78

                  #53
                  Ok just gona set some things strait here, or atleast give my input to what i know.

                  1) the dye LPR on the dm4 rocks. They redesigned the old LPR that was on the DYE LCD's and this one works way better. It is not removable, but it works great so there is no reason to remove it.

                  2) the comment about DM4's bouncing like mad is false. In the video they have it go full auto, i dont know how they did it, i have never seen that in any other dm4 and there is no bounce in the video. Everyone is complaining how they dont have bounce even with debounce on level one. These are guys comming from timmies with was, and they are sad they dont have bounce. These guns rip withough bounce just so you know. I think the guy in the video is just fast as hell.

                  3) the regs on the DM4 are one of the top 3 regs out there right now. Up there with the sidewinder and 04 glad.

                  The DM4s have come a long way from the first several out. they are great and are worth every penny.

                  Pat

                  PS you can get them for less than 1500, most stores are selling for 1300 or 1350, and i can get one for 1100. Just look around. In my opinion the best marker out now. Imma getting one in a few weeks, and a 2k4 alias for back up.

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                  • xXHavokXx
                    Section XIII.
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 860

                    #54
                    I love mine. I got very tight numbers over the chrono and lay ropes of paint.

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