Is it just me or...

[robdamanii]

...are people just jumping on every bandwagon out there?

thread one-penumatic spyder?

thread two-spyder/timmy???

C'mon. No spyder will ever be an angel or an impulse. Is it just me or are ideas such as that and The One kit a huge waste of time and resources?

[RT pRo AuToMaG]

people have money to waste....wish they would put it to use and give it to me so i can upgrade my trix

[robdamanii]

Yeah. Let's spend 600 bucks on making a spyder into an Intimidator, when you can buy a pretty damn nice REAL electro for that price.

People are sheep when it comes to marketing gimmicks and common sense it seems.

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

You guys have obviously never seen a true tricked out spyder, and the one kit is not six hundred, its more like 200

[-=Squid=-]

The one kit is 200, and for people on a budget is the best bet. With the one kit you no longer have a spyder, you have a true electro pneumatic marker.

[robdamanii]

I own several tricked spyders.

The One kit reduces the cycling rate of the marker, makes it a maintainence intensive mess, a HPA only marker, and couple that with kingman's crappy manufacturing tolerances....

You can get the same performance out of a spyder with a lightened hammer, high flow internals, and an uncapped board. Trust me, it's NOT difficult.

The One is nothing more than a gimmick.

And FYI, making a spyder into a timmy would cost you around 600+ including milling and ano. Easily.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by robdamanii
I own several tricked spyders.

The One kit reduces the cycling rate of the marker, makes it a maintainence intensive mess, a HPA only marker, and couple that with kingman's crappy manufacturing tolerances....

You can get the same performance out of a spyder with a lightened hammer, high flow internals, and an uncapped board. Trust me, it's NOT difficult.

The One is nothing more than a gimmick.

And FYI, making a spyder into a timmy would cost you around 600+ including milling and ano. Easily.

In other words, its a cheap alternative to an electropneumatic marker. It doesnt reduce the ROF, either. Sorry bud, your wrong on this one.

[Rope a Dope]

I ordered two kits for my store.

$200 retail.

Most people already buy a Spyder and probaly have barrels for it, why not simply upgrade it into a whole new gun for a couple hundered more?

[sniper1rfa]

Apparently you arent aware that the intimidator was originally created as an upgrade kit for the spyder paintball marker, and sold as a complete marker to get rid of bob long's extra black widow spyder bodies.



I for one enjoy playing paintball with my raptorcocker.

[deathstalker]

Originally posted by robdamanii
People are sheep when it comes to marketing gimmicks and common sense it seems.

If they were sheep, wouldn't they just be buying Timmies?



*EDIT* Please fix your sig.

[tyrion2323]

First of all, don't go bashing Spyders and Draguns. I would pit a team with a TES (w/ or w/out the one) against a team with timmies anyday. The Intimidator isn't really much more than a Spyder - in fact, classic timmies are basically the same thing as the Dragun TES. Sure Timmies are the hot thing out today, but except for the Ram and the breakbeam eyes, they're no better than a TES. And a One'd TES has a ram in it.

[can'tthink of1]

I like what they are doing. They're doing something different and for that I respect them. I don't really want to spend that money, but it would be a cool project. In a world where timmy's and angel's are looked upon as the best(not really)these creators have something totally different that few others have. That IMO is worth the cost. Kinda like you rob, u make spyders that perform well, and you support spyders and don't doubt their performance compared to timmies and such. Me, well I wanted to be different and bought a marker thats a few years old, my tribal, and know what, I'm glad I did. My two cents.

*edit* sortof OT but rob, how do you like the Mag and the speed?

[Digits]

Originally posted by sniper1rfa
Apparently you arent aware that the intimidator was originally created as an upgrade kit for the spyder paintball marker, and sold as a complete marker to get rid of bob long's extra black widow spyder bodies.



I for one enjoy playing paintball with my raptorcocker.

He's only speaking the truth..

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by tyrion2323
First of all, don't go bashing Spyders and Draguns. I would pit a team with a TES (w/ or w/out the one) against a team with timmies anyday. The Intimidator isn't really much more than a Spyder - in fact, classic timmies are basically the same thing as the Dragun TES. Sure Timmies are the hot thing out today, but except for the Ram and the breakbeam eyes, they're no better than a TES. And a One'd TES has a ram in it.

Actually, no. Classic timmies are the same as any newer timmy, minus some bells and whistles.

They do not function with a spring, and are very different than a spyder. Other than the body, there really isnt anything the same.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
In other words, its a cheap alternative to an electropneumatic marker. It doesnt reduce the ROF, either. Sorry bud, your wrong on this one.

It reduces max cycling rate, which is around 50 CPS in a lightened internal blowback.

The One reduces that to around the mid 30s.

And FYI, the eye on the TES is crap once you hit 10 BPS.