Is it just me or...

[GA Devil]

do you remember when the timmy first came out for 500-600? it couldnt sell. they take it back raise the price and now it sells like crazy and there isnt much different. Its the deal of "its costs alot so it must be good" Hell if they brought chevettes back and charged 40k for 1 they would sell just cause they were expensive. Its all about keepign up with the jones's. Its still just a built spider with a high price tag.

[robdamanii]

I agree its a bit of "keeping up with the jones'" but the thing I don't get is why they're spending so much money on milling and anno and One kits to turn a spyder into a timmy. To me, a tricked bloback is one creature, but making a blowback into an electro inherantly robs the blowback of what makes it unique, so to speak.

If you figure the guy whos got an e-99 wants a One kit, he's throwing away his frame and all of his internals. To me, I'd rather have a factory built electro from ICD than spend 200 on a One kit, and another 60 on a spyder to put it in. It's not far from BKO territory at all.

I'd rather have a true electro (as in, concieved as an electro, not a blowback) than fiddle around with poor manufacturing tolerances, kits, etc etc with a converted blowback.

I give them points for ingenuity, but on a purely fiscal hand, it's not exactly the greatest idea out there.

[shartley]

[robdamanii]

I agree completely with "to each their own", but I still find it mind boggling that people will spend so much money on converting a spyder to an electro when you can buy a better one for the price.

I suppose some people's desire to tinker and change outweighs performance considerations in some cases.

[shartley]

Originally posted by robdamanii
I agree completely with "to each their own", but I still find it mind boggling that people will spend so much money on converting a spyder to an electro when you can buy a better one for the price.

I suppose some people's desire to tinker and change outweighs performance considerations in some cases.

[sniper1rfa]

listen, say im a newbie, i buy my spyder, use it for three years, and then feel outgunned.

Whats should i do?

A: Buy a timmy (a spyder with the "one" kit, and dont talk about tolerances, timmies suck) for like 600 bucks or...

B: Buy a "one" kit for my spyder, get everything the timmy has, for 200 bucks.

The fact is that when considering a one kit, you arent considering buying a spyder and upgrading, as you already bought the spyder and want to upgrade to a rambolt electro (which, of course, are all pretty much the same).


And you talk about mindless sheep?

[shartley]

Originally posted by sniper1rfa
listen, say im a newbie, i buy my spyder, use it for three years, and then feel outgunned.

Whats should i do?

A: Buy a timmy (a spyder with the "one" kit, and dont talk about tolerances, timmies suck) for like 600 bucks or...

B: Buy a "one" kit for my spyder, get everything the timmy has, for 200 bucks.

The fact is that when considering a one kit, you arent considering buying a spyder and upgrading, as you already bought the spyder and want to upgrade to a rambolt electro (which, of course, are all pretty much the same).

Another good point.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by sniper1rfa
listen, say im a newbie, i buy my spyder, use it for three years, and then feel outgunned.

Whats should i do?

A: Buy a timmy (a spyder with the "one" kit, and dont talk about tolerances, timmies suck) for like 600 bucks or...

B: Buy a "one" kit for my spyder, get everything the timmy has, for 200 bucks.

The fact is that when considering a one kit, you arent considering buying a spyder and upgrading, as you already bought the spyder and want to upgrade to a rambolt electro (which, of course, are all pretty much the same).


And you talk about mindless sheep?

It still would not perform up the the quality of a higher end marker. Take an angel with a break beam trigger, fully ajustable board, sens-i...versus a One spyder with a switched trigger, a less than fully adjustable board, no AC system...

I'd rather drop the money on a decent electro then deal with issues related to putting a kit on an existing one. Not to mention, when your One marker breaks down, do you think you'll be fixing it right on the staging area table? Probably not, depending on the issue, but it's sure as hell more difficult to fix than a standard open bolt blowback marker. Additionally, if you purchase a new marker, you still have a solid backup in case your main one goes down. By replacing all the stuff in your spyder with a One kit, you're putting all your eggs in one basket, unless of course you carry your trigger frame, striker, valve and pin, spring kit, VA, LPC, and all the tools required to do a full internal swap with you to the field (not really unreasonable, just a pain in the ***).

[shartley]

Originally posted by robdamanii
It still would not perform up the the quality of a higher end marker. Take an angel with a break beam trigger, fully ajustable board, sens-i...versus a One spyder with a switched trigger, a less than fully adjustable board, no ACE...

Originally posted by robdamanii
I'd rather drop the money on a decent electro then deal with issues related to putting a kit on an existing one. Not to mention, when your One marker breaks down, do you think you'll be fixing it right on the staging area table? Probably not, depending on the issue, but it's sure as hell more difficult to fix than a standard open bolt blowback marker.

[shartley]

Originally posted by robdamanii
Additionally, if you purchase a new marker, you still have a solid backup in case your main one goes down. By replacing all the stuff in your spyder with a One kit, you're putting all your eggs in one basket, unless of course you carry your trigger frame, striker, valve and pin, spring kit, VA, LPC, and all the tools required to do a full internal swap with you to the field (not really unreasonable, just a pain in the ***).

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by shartley

Well, assuming your air tank will make the swap, and your hopper, it wouldn't be so bad.

I do agree it's not a bad option if you're putting it in the situation you're describing (although there are parts that you can purchase that will increase the performance to an equal level for a slightly lower cost), but when you're building a spyder completely from scratch just to be a "spydertimmy" then I find it kind of ridiculous.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by robdamanii


Well, assuming your air tank will make the swap, and your hopper, it wouldn't be so bad.

I do agree it's not a bad option if you're putting it in the situation you're describing (although there are parts that you can purchase that will increase the performance to an equal level for a slightly lower cost), but when you're building a spyder completely from scratch just to be a "spydertimmy" then I find it kind of ridiculous.

Have you even tried this kit?